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How will they ever survive without you using the service for free...

vorpalhex 4y ago
People use dockerhub, become familar with it and then recommend it. I used to use dockerhub and recommend it at my workplaces, and we did indeed buy subscriptions. Now I don't use it and actively recommend a competitor. Indeed it seems more and more companies will stop using it.
joshmanders 4y ago
It's more than free users leaving. I have 2 orgs on Docker Hub, one is paid for my company's private images for our products and services, the other is an org for free images we maintain and give to the community. With this change we'll have to move the free org somewhere else... If we do that we may as well move the paid org too. So now they're losing out on revenue, because I'm not splitting my stuff between two different registries. We'll just migrate to a new one and that registry will get our paid team too.
ericb 4y ago
I'm sure losing any one free-user is inconsequential and even advantageous per free account they rid themselves of. BUT, there's a massive brand-value to being the place, and the company that everyone goes to. Losing that status is something they might not survive, especially in the user-hostile manner they are acting. The hate-your-user approach works only if there are no alternatives and competitors who would like to eat your lunch (github, gitlab).
ahepp 4y ago
Their (mostly free) users are the only asset they have. They didn't invent container technology, they made a nice interface that popularized it. That's fine, they did a good job, but it seems like they are getting funding on the premise that they're somehow going to be able to get money out of everyone running linux containers. What services does Docker actually provide? You don't need a crystal ball to know hosting image tarballs is going to be a very low margin business, even if you have the HUGE advantage of baking your URL into the client. And once you kill that goose, even if it only lays copper eggs, it's not coming back. Once users don't use docker.io, what relevance will the Docker client have?

People use dockerhub, become familar with it and then recommend it. I used to use dockerhub and recommend it at my workplaces, and we did indeed buy subscriptions. Now I don't use it and actively recommend a competitor. Indeed it seems more and more companies will stop using it.

joshmanders 4y ago

It's more than free users leaving. I have 2 orgs on Docker Hub, one is paid for my company's private images for our products and services, the other is an org for free images we maintain and give to the community. With this change we'll have to move the free org somewhere else... If we do that we may as well move the paid org too. So now they're losing out on revenue, because I'm not splitting my stuff between two different registries. We'll just migrate to a new one and that registry will get our paid team too.

ericb 4y ago

I'm sure losing any one free-user is inconsequential and even advantageous per free account they rid themselves of. BUT, there's a massive brand-value to being the place, and the company that everyone goes to. Losing that status is something they might not survive, especially in the user-hostile manner they are acting. The hate-your-user approach works only if there are no alternatives and competitors who would like to eat your lunch (github, gitlab).

ahepp 4y ago

Their (mostly free) users are the only asset they have. They didn't invent container technology, they made a nice interface that popularized it. That's fine, they did a good job, but it seems like they are getting funding on the premise that they're somehow going to be able to get money out of everyone running linux containers. What services does Docker actually provide? You don't need a crystal ball to know hosting image tarballs is going to be a very low margin business, even if you have the HUGE advantage of baking your URL into the client. And once you kill that goose, even if it only lays copper eggs, it's not coming back. Once users don't use docker.io, what relevance will the Docker client have?