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Binance is not a cryptocurrency. Binance is a centralized service which allows people to buy cryptocurrencies, but which is not strictly necessary to use in or

Binance is not a cryptocurrency. Binance is a centralized service which allows people to buy cryptocurrencies, but which is not strictly necessary to use in order to use cryptocurrencies. People can use decentralized exchanges like Bisq if they want to avoid these issues. EDIT: Remember how Hackernews was supposed to be a community which has a focus on software development, and thus finding technical solutions to problems of users? Now it seems we're more about bashing people for using the wrong technology? Advocating for a technical solution to their problems is disapproved of?

Xelynega 4y ago
But do they? It seems to me that most of the volume(and people) are on these centralized sites.
originalcopying 4y ago
and github is not git and linux is gnu/linux .... now get off my lawn? dunno
f6v 4y ago
Grocery stores aren’t necessary - you can grow your own food, dentists aren’t necessary - you can pull your own teeth, etc. It just seems like many people use exchanges and that’s what (at least partially) crypto is now.
- RjQoLCOSwiIKfpm 4y ago
  Cryptocurrencies were meant as a "grow your own food" thing in the first place, they are supposed to be decentralized. Hence it does not seem logical to go to a "grow your own food" subthread and wonder why it makes a point about store-bought food not being grown at home. As with all things in life, a golden rule applies: If you don't like it then don't use it, that's ok!
  - coffeebeqn 4y ago
    It seems more like a case of someone inventing tomatoes and getting mad that industrial farms starts planting them. That’s not tomatoes! It’s supposed to be decentralized! Often the thing that’s envisioned by the creators is not the final say on market fit
    - RjQoLCOSwiIKfpm 4y ago
      I don't care that the industry uses someone's tomatoes :) I merely care about the fact that the tomatoes are being called non-industrial even though they are 100% factory grown. I.e. Binance is not "crypto".
      - p_j_w 4y ago
        Are you going to sit here and pretend that centralized marketplaces aren't how the vast majority of people deal with crypto?
        hef19898 4y ago
        No true scotsm... Never mind.
    - notahacker 4y ago
      Worse than that. It's like people whose fortune is tied up in tomato plants insisting that none of the people eating tomatoes or exporting them or making sauces with them should be considered anything to do with the tomato industry If there were no exchanges to provide a friction-free way for speculators and suckers to buy Bitcoins and Bitcoin recipients to turn them into spendable cash, there would be virtually no demand to buy or accept goods for Bitcoins, and the supply of Bitcoins exceeding the demand for them would obviously render them useless as a "store of value"
  - nradov 4y ago
    The golden rule doesn't apply here. Criminals are actively using cryptocurrencies to commit many crimes including tax fraud, money laundering, and ransomware. That harms everyone, at least indirectly, even if we don't use cryptocurrencies ourselves. So tight legal controls are appropriate here. To draw an analogy, I support the individual right to keep and bear arms. But I don't want criminals to have access to weapons, and we can impose some reasonable rules to prevent that.
emilsedgh 4y ago
At this point "Cryptocurrencies" are only a small, even substantial part of the "Crypto Industry". The moment general population became aware of "bitcoin" as "something you can buy that'll get more expensive", the whole technology and ideals behind it were overshadowed by speculative investors.
- RjQoLCOSwiIKfpm 4y ago
  Sure, but then don't call it "crypto" industry if it is not about cryptocurrencies. I don't care what you call it, calling the centralized Binance exchange "crypto" is just not accurate. They don't deserve to co-opt the word.
  - danaris 4y ago
    Just because it is centralized, and thus does not follow one of the purported principles of some cryptocurrency enthusiasts, does not mean that it is not both correct and useful to call it part of that industry.
    - EFreethought 4y ago
      Also: A lot of cryptocurrency enthusiasts (although not all) want and have wanted cryptocurrency to get broader adoption and acceptance. Exchanges are how that is going to happen. If it does happen. Looking for hard drives in the trash does not scale.
  - r_hoods_ghost 4y ago
    Umm, you do realize that the purveyors of decentralized Ponzi schemes co-opted the word "crypto" from us serious minded folks concerned with cryptography?
    - RjQoLCOSwiIKfpm 4y ago
      Yes that sucks - which is why I had used the full word "cryptocurrency" in the non-quote parts of my replies :)
optimalsolver 4y ago
No true ScotsCoin.
- coffeebeqn 4y ago
  Oh god, is the next phase “true crypto has never been tried!”
  - HN_is_for_gemes 4y ago
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Xelynega 4y ago

But do they? It seems to me that most of the volume(and people) are on these centralized sites.

originalcopying 4y ago

and github is not git and linux is gnu/linux .... now get off my lawn? dunno

f6v 4y ago

Grocery stores aren’t necessary - you can grow your own food, dentists aren’t necessary - you can pull your own teeth, etc. It just seems like many people use exchanges and that’s what (at least partially) crypto is now.

RjQoLCOSwiIKfpm 4y ago
Cryptocurrencies were meant as a "grow your own food" thing in the first place, they are supposed to be decentralized. Hence it does not seem logical to go to a "grow your own food" subthread and wonder why it makes a point about store-bought food not being grown at home. As with all things in life, a golden rule applies: If you don't like it then don't use it, that's ok!
- coffeebeqn 4y ago
  It seems more like a case of someone inventing tomatoes and getting mad that industrial farms starts planting them. That’s not tomatoes! It’s supposed to be decentralized! Often the thing that’s envisioned by the creators is not the final say on market fit
  - RjQoLCOSwiIKfpm 4y ago
    I don't care that the industry uses someone's tomatoes :) I merely care about the fact that the tomatoes are being called non-industrial even though they are 100% factory grown. I.e. Binance is not "crypto".
    - p_j_w 4y ago
      Are you going to sit here and pretend that centralized marketplaces aren't how the vast majority of people deal with crypto?
      - hef19898 4y ago
        No true scotsm... Never mind.
  - notahacker 4y ago
    Worse than that. It's like people whose fortune is tied up in tomato plants insisting that none of the people eating tomatoes or exporting them or making sauces with them should be considered anything to do with the tomato industry If there were no exchanges to provide a friction-free way for speculators and suckers to buy Bitcoins and Bitcoin recipients to turn them into spendable cash, there would be virtually no demand to buy or accept goods for Bitcoins, and the supply of Bitcoins exceeding the demand for them would obviously render them useless as a "store of value"
- nradov 4y ago
  The golden rule doesn't apply here. Criminals are actively using cryptocurrencies to commit many crimes including tax fraud, money laundering, and ransomware. That harms everyone, at least indirectly, even if we don't use cryptocurrencies ourselves. So tight legal controls are appropriate here. To draw an analogy, I support the individual right to keep and bear arms. But I don't want criminals to have access to weapons, and we can impose some reasonable rules to prevent that.

emilsedgh 4y ago

At this point "Cryptocurrencies" are only a small, even substantial part of the "Crypto Industry". The moment general population became aware of "bitcoin" as "something you can buy that'll get more expensive", the whole technology and ideals behind it were overshadowed by speculative investors.

RjQoLCOSwiIKfpm 4y ago
Sure, but then don't call it "crypto" industry if it is not about cryptocurrencies. I don't care what you call it, calling the centralized Binance exchange "crypto" is just not accurate. They don't deserve to co-opt the word.
- danaris 4y ago
  Just because it is centralized, and thus does not follow one of the purported principles of some cryptocurrency enthusiasts, does not mean that it is not both correct and useful to call it part of that industry.
  - EFreethought 4y ago
    Also: A lot of cryptocurrency enthusiasts (although not all) want and have wanted cryptocurrency to get broader adoption and acceptance. Exchanges are how that is going to happen. If it does happen. Looking for hard drives in the trash does not scale.
- r_hoods_ghost 4y ago
  Umm, you do realize that the purveyors of decentralized Ponzi schemes co-opted the word "crypto" from us serious minded folks concerned with cryptography?
  - RjQoLCOSwiIKfpm 4y ago
    Yes that sucks - which is why I had used the full word "cryptocurrency" in the non-quote parts of my replies :)

optimalsolver 4y ago

No true ScotsCoin.

coffeebeqn 4y ago
Oh god, is the next phase “true crypto has never been tried!”
- HN_is_for_gemes 4y ago
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