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If I'm following this all here... We're going to have AI help us generate long pieces of text from very small blurbs of information. Then the reader is going

by mabbo 4y ago

If I'm following this all here... We're going to have AI help us generate long pieces of text from very small blurbs of information. Then the reader is going to have AI read the long pieces of text, and condense it down into just small blurbs of information. Will my self-driving car also take unneeded detours through pretty places, making it take longer to get where I'm going?

Jack000 4y ago
Malls are already designed in a labyrinthine way so you pass by as many stores as possible. Self driving cars might have set destinations that are cheaper to visit, or have free rides that are ad-supported, or recommend stops along your route.
- tedajax 4y ago
  Ah good, more terrible things to look forward to.
- flangola7 4y ago
  All the while creating more CO2
  - nicksrose7224 4y ago
    most (all?) self driving companies are electric. Cruise, Waymo, Tesla
    - californical 4y ago
      And how is that electricity generated in most of the US/world?
      - lobocinza 4y ago
        And how those cars were built? Electric cars generate more tons of CO2 to make than conventional combustion ones. But it's expected to pay off as long as the electricity is generated cleanly.
- yencabulator 4y ago
  > Self driving cars might have set destinations that are cheaper to visit, I think you mean set destinations based on an auction of what business paid most for your visit, based on your demographics & ride history.
avereveard 4y ago
> detours through pretty places heck I might like that service, if optional
dagw 4y ago
Will my self-driving car I guess that depends if it's _your_ self-driving car or Google/Uber/Teslas self-driving car that they're letting you use. It might even be so that the physical car is yours, but the self-driving software is licensed and controlled by a third party.
ren_engineer 4y ago
Google is also effectively giving up on Search if they are willing to help people generate more SEO spam at scale by directly providing AI text generation in Docs. OpenAI/Microsoft shook them up so hard that they are doing stuff that is most likely self-destructive long term
- sebzim4500 4y ago
  Presumably any other search engine will be just as badly hit as Google is, so this won't make people move away.
- Veen 4y ago
  AI-generated SEO spam is here regardless of what Google does. But they don't also want everyone to stop using Google Docs because it lacks features that are definitely coming to Microsoft Word and every other competitor.
seydor 4y ago
https://twitter.com/sama/status/1631394688384270336 https://twitter.com/sama/status/1631394688384270336
pxtail 4y ago
Well, that google post probably was written with the help of AI and itself looks like it could benefit from keypoints extraction service, it's full of corporate mumbojumbo with occasional "Select developers can access", "stay tuned for our waitlist soon", "to testers in the coming weeks.", "more to come in the weeks and months ahead." In general, very low energy and conservative compared to bold MS moves
- scottyah 4y ago
  At least somebody is trying to get it right before they ship
  - generalizations 4y ago
    Nah. They’re just more scared of failure than they are motivated to capture the market.
hs86 4y ago
It looks like these AI features are going to add some padding to our messages, and the other end needs AI to undo it in order to save their sanity. Just look at the "I'm on it" example from their announcement video and what nonsense their AI makes out of it: https://youtu.be/6DaJVZBXETE?t=31 https://youtu.be/6DaJVZBXETE?t=31
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 4y ago
  I laughed out loud at this. It reminded me of an old article [1] about Howard Schultz where his reply of "On it." was praised by another CEO because it demonstrated that he was much more focused on getting shit done rather than overcommunicating or over-delegating. I just dug it up: > Friends and colleagues agree that he is as fanatical as ever about Starbucks. Millard Drexler, the chief executive of J. Crew, recently e-mailed Mr. Schultz to complain that the coffee lids at a Starbucks on Astor Place in Manhattan kept spilling coffee on his shirt. Mr. Schultz’s reply: “On it.” > Mr. Drexler, who has a habit of e-mailing C.E.O.’s with complaints, says: “I can give you many more examples when they say, ‘I’ll send this to a research department or a gatekeeper.’ ” But, he says of Starbucks, “to have that kind of quality control they have around the world is pretty extraordinary.” [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/13/business/13coffee.html https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/13/business/13coffee.html
sebzim4500 4y ago
I wonder if they will let the AI on the receiving end access the original text that the sender wrote to get better results. Presumably Google will store the pre-BS message.
RobotToaster 4y ago
>Will my self-driving car also take unneeded detours through pretty places, making it take longer to get where I'm going? No, but it may take a detour through the local McDonalds drive through because they sponsor the self driving car company.
IanCal 4y ago
It's more than that. The initial blurbs don't contain enough information, but with context you can make solid guesses about what should go in. So it's * small explanation * initial proposal of what you probably want * fixes and approval Not really any different than asking a person to do it for you. You don't tell your car/mapping software the exact route you want, you tell it where you want to go and then review the proposed plan, and that's with a very restricted setup (exact destination, limited routes). Edit More importantly, short messages that convey everything you want with the right tone are hard. Taking my mashed thoughts and converting them to easier to understand prose is a benefit even if it's longer. Just like a larger function can be better than a code-golfed one. It's longer but it doesn't take longer to read.
usful 4y ago
> Will my self-driving car also take unneeded detours through pretty places, making it take longer to get where I'm going? I hope so, when you want it to. "Unneeded detours through pretty places" is a kind of being present in the world.
- brokenmachine 4y ago
  That's actually interesting, never thought of that. An AI that directs you to explore places it deduces that you'd enjoy would be pretty cool.
coffeefirst 4y ago
And the key detail that made the original note make sense will get deleted in the translation back and forth.
bufferoverflow 4y ago
You won't necessarily want to compress what AI wrote. If it's a long interesting story, you will want to enjoy it.
- misnome 4y ago
  It won't be.

by mabbo 4y ago

Jack000 4y ago

Malls are already designed in a labyrinthine way so you pass by as many stores as possible. Self driving cars might have set destinations that are cheaper to visit, or have free rides that are ad-supported, or recommend stops along your route.

tedajax 4y ago
Ah good, more terrible things to look forward to.
flangola7 4y ago
All the while creating more CO2
- nicksrose7224 4y ago
  most (all?) self driving companies are electric. Cruise, Waymo, Tesla
  - californical 4y ago
    And how is that electricity generated in most of the US/world?
    - lobocinza 4y ago
      And how those cars were built? Electric cars generate more tons of CO2 to make than conventional combustion ones. But it's expected to pay off as long as the electricity is generated cleanly.
yencabulator 4y ago
> Self driving cars might have set destinations that are cheaper to visit, I think you mean set destinations based on an auction of what business paid most for your visit, based on your demographics & ride history.

avereveard 4y ago

> detours through pretty places heck I might like that service, if optional

dagw 4y ago

Will my self-driving car I guess that depends if it's _your_ self-driving car or Google/Uber/Teslas self-driving car that they're letting you use. It might even be so that the physical car is yours, but the self-driving software is licensed and controlled by a third party.

ren_engineer 4y ago

Google is also effectively giving up on Search if they are willing to help people generate more SEO spam at scale by directly providing AI text generation in Docs. OpenAI/Microsoft shook them up so hard that they are doing stuff that is most likely self-destructive long term

sebzim4500 4y ago
Presumably any other search engine will be just as badly hit as Google is, so this won't make people move away.
Veen 4y ago
AI-generated SEO spam is here regardless of what Google does. But they don't also want everyone to stop using Google Docs because it lacks features that are definitely coming to Microsoft Word and every other competitor.

seydor 4y ago

https://twitter.com/sama/status/1631394688384270336 https://twitter.com/sama/status/1631394688384270336

pxtail 4y ago

Well, that google post probably was written with the help of AI and itself looks like it could benefit from keypoints extraction service, it's full of corporate mumbojumbo with occasional "Select developers can access", "stay tuned for our waitlist soon", "to testers in the coming weeks.", "more to come in the weeks and months ahead." In general, very low energy and conservative compared to bold MS moves

scottyah 4y ago
At least somebody is trying to get it right before they ship
- generalizations 4y ago
  Nah. They’re just more scared of failure than they are motivated to capture the market.

hs86 4y ago

It looks like these AI features are going to add some padding to our messages, and the other end needs AI to undo it in order to save their sanity. Just look at the "I'm on it" example from their announcement video and what nonsense their AI makes out of it: https://youtu.be/6DaJVZBXETE?t=31 https://youtu.be/6DaJVZBXETE?t=31

rrrrrrrrrrrryan 4y ago
I laughed out loud at this. It reminded me of an old article [1] about Howard Schultz where his reply of "On it." was praised by another CEO because it demonstrated that he was much more focused on getting shit done rather than overcommunicating or over-delegating. I just dug it up: > Friends and colleagues agree that he is as fanatical as ever about Starbucks. Millard Drexler, the chief executive of J. Crew, recently e-mailed Mr. Schultz to complain that the coffee lids at a Starbucks on Astor Place in Manhattan kept spilling coffee on his shirt. Mr. Schultz’s reply: “On it.” > Mr. Drexler, who has a habit of e-mailing C.E.O.’s with complaints, says: “I can give you many more examples when they say, ‘I’ll send this to a research department or a gatekeeper.’ ” But, he says of Starbucks, “to have that kind of quality control they have around the world is pretty extraordinary.” [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/13/business/13coffee.html https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/13/business/13coffee.html

sebzim4500 4y ago

I wonder if they will let the AI on the receiving end access the original text that the sender wrote to get better results. Presumably Google will store the pre-BS message.

RobotToaster 4y ago

>Will my self-driving car also take unneeded detours through pretty places, making it take longer to get where I'm going? No, but it may take a detour through the local McDonalds drive through because they sponsor the self driving car company.

IanCal 4y ago

It's more than that. The initial blurbs don't contain enough information, but with context you can make solid guesses about what should go in. So it's * small explanation * initial proposal of what you probably want * fixes and approval Not really any different than asking a person to do it for you. You don't tell your car/mapping software the exact route you want, you tell it where you want to go and then review the proposed plan, and that's with a very restricted setup (exact destination, limited routes). Edit More importantly, short messages that convey everything you want with the right tone are hard. Taking my mashed thoughts and converting them to easier to understand prose is a benefit even if it's longer. Just like a larger function can be better than a code-golfed one. It's longer but it doesn't take longer to read.

usful 4y ago

> Will my self-driving car also take unneeded detours through pretty places, making it take longer to get where I'm going? I hope so, when you want it to. "Unneeded detours through pretty places" is a kind of being present in the world.

brokenmachine 4y ago
That's actually interesting, never thought of that. An AI that directs you to explore places it deduces that you'd enjoy would be pretty cool.

coffeefirst 4y ago

And the key detail that made the original note make sense will get deleted in the translation back and forth.

bufferoverflow 4y ago

You won't necessarily want to compress what AI wrote. If it's a long interesting story, you will want to enjoy it.

misnome 4y ago
It won't be.