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"It should increase with time." Why is that?

i2ksbu2b 4y ago
to avoid hacking
ryukafalz 4y ago
The longer you've been in a place the more established you'll be there. You'll have built relationships, you might own a home, you might have made large purchases that aren't easy to move like a car... etc.
- em-bee 4y ago
  also, kids in school or have a girlfriend/boyfriend that you may want to marry. you really don't want to rush a marriage just because your visa is about to expire.
AdamN 4y ago
It incentivizes people to invest more. If you know that even after 4 years of time you are still only 60 days away from deportation you likely won't put down as much of an investment in the country.
sshine 4y ago
The longer you have worked, the move you have proved yourself. Bayesian inference.
the_mar 4y ago
As an immigrant, because you’ve built your life here, because you managed to be a positive contributor to a society for years, because you are clearly aren’t here to abuse american benefits (that you can’t even get).
- linuxftw 4y ago
  You shouldn't build your life here on a temporary visa. 4 years should be the maximum allowed stay, and the employer should be obligated to have you train your replacement the entire time. Otherwise, it's just a wage-suppressing system of indentured service.
  - ckaygusu 4y ago
    Why not actually treat them with dignity instead, and give them a legit chance to settle?
    - the_mar 4y ago
      Because clearly people who weren’t born here are unworthy of being treated equally. And because “they took our jerbws”
    - sokoloff 4y ago
      I am in favor of treating H1B holders with dignity, but I think it's at least fair (and likely proper) for any country's government to give priority and preference to its own citizens/permanent residents over the citizens/permanent residents of other countries. I think that's what the debate ends up being about in a time like this. If there comes a broad tech recession, should the US government prioritize the needs of US citizen/permanent resident tech workers or the needs of H1B tech workers? As much as I believe we must treat everyone with dignity, it seems eminently reasonable for the US government to prioritize the first group over the second group (and even unreasonable to not do that).
      - the_mar 4y ago
        What you say holds true. Of course the US nationals have to be prioritized. But the reality is they already are. Hiring someone on H1B results in lawyer fees and visa fees. Every company is already incentivized to hire domestically. Which I do agree is 100% fair. However how is extending the grace period beyond 60 days harming anyone?
        4y ago

to avoid hacking

The longer you've been in a place the more established you'll be there. You'll have built relationships, you might own a home, you might have made large purchases that aren't easy to move like a car... etc.

em-bee 4y ago
also, kids in school or have a girlfriend/boyfriend that you may want to marry. you really don't want to rush a marriage just because your visa is about to expire.

AdamN 4y ago

It incentivizes people to invest more. If you know that even after 4 years of time you are still only 60 days away from deportation you likely won't put down as much of an investment in the country.

sshine 4y ago

The longer you have worked, the move you have proved yourself. Bayesian inference.

the_mar 4y ago

As an immigrant, because you’ve built your life here, because you managed to be a positive contributor to a society for years, because you are clearly aren’t here to abuse american benefits (that you can’t even get).

linuxftw 4y ago
You shouldn't build your life here on a temporary visa. 4 years should be the maximum allowed stay, and the employer should be obligated to have you train your replacement the entire time. Otherwise, it's just a wage-suppressing system of indentured service.
- ckaygusu 4y ago
  Why not actually treat them with dignity instead, and give them a legit chance to settle?
  - the_mar 4y ago
    Because clearly people who weren’t born here are unworthy of being treated equally. And because “they took our jerbws”
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    I am in favor of treating H1B holders with dignity, but I think it's at least fair (and likely proper) for any country's government to give priority and preference to its own citizens/permanent residents over the citizens/permanent residents of other countries. I think that's what the debate ends up being about in a time like this. If there comes a broad tech recession, should the US government prioritize the needs of US citizen/permanent resident tech workers or the needs of H1B tech workers? As much as I believe we must treat everyone with dignity, it seems eminently reasonable for the US government to prioritize the first group over the second group (and even unreasonable to not do that).
    - the_mar 4y ago
      What you say holds true. Of course the US nationals have to be prioritized. But the reality is they already are. Hiring someone on H1B results in lawyer fees and visa fees. Every company is already incentivized to hire domestically. Which I do agree is 100% fair. However how is extending the grace period beyond 60 days harming anyone?
      - 4y ago