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The solution is often making it impossible for people to commit mistakes. Just like you can't "accidentally" launch an ICBM. I admit some of these may be diff

by mc32 4y ago

The solution is often making it impossible for people to commit mistakes. Just like you can't "accidentally" launch an ICBM. I admit some of these may be difficult to accomplish with training protocol, but often these firms that come in and advise on how to be "safer" are just pounding harder. You know what, making someone glaze over a checklist isn't going to make them be safer. It takes the right personality and attention to detail that some people just lack.

nradov 4y ago
Please explain how your make it "impossible" to run over a co-worker with a forklift. Have you ever worked in a warehouse? Checklists have been proven to improve safety in many environments. They aren't a panacea and some workers will inevitably ignore them, but they do help.
- mc32 4y ago
  We're getting a bit off the rails here. My point is a lot of these cottage industries that pop up to address whatever the current zeitgeist is in the workplace is 90% useless and the time (money could be better spent). You could re-design warehouses. Add sensors so that proximity activates a power kill switch, etc. But this is not the main thrust. The main one is most of these expert advisors are closer to extortionists than problem solvers. I will believe them and take them seriously when they volunteer their commitment to improve things. People go to those time management trainings and the same wasteful meetings continue but with some added nonsense twist. Harassments training but managers still can't keep their hands to themselves. SOX and people still misappropriate funds. Group collaborations with some idiotic legos exercise and people still protect their silos.
- im3w1l 4y ago
  I would go as far as impossible, but those proximity sensors cars use work pretty well.
  - smolder 4y ago
    *wouldn't go [I don't know if there's something about HN or how people are using it, but these typos that make sentences have the opposite meaning seem far more frequent here than what I'd expect. I probably am biased towards noticing.]

by mc32 4y ago

nradov 4y ago

Please explain how your make it "impossible" to run over a co-worker with a forklift. Have you ever worked in a warehouse? Checklists have been proven to improve safety in many environments. They aren't a panacea and some workers will inevitably ignore them, but they do help.

mc32 4y ago
We're getting a bit off the rails here. My point is a lot of these cottage industries that pop up to address whatever the current zeitgeist is in the workplace is 90% useless and the time (money could be better spent). You could re-design warehouses. Add sensors so that proximity activates a power kill switch, etc. But this is not the main thrust. The main one is most of these expert advisors are closer to extortionists than problem solvers. I will believe them and take them seriously when they volunteer their commitment to improve things. People go to those time management trainings and the same wasteful meetings continue but with some added nonsense twist. Harassments training but managers still can't keep their hands to themselves. SOX and people still misappropriate funds. Group collaborations with some idiotic legos exercise and people still protect their silos.
im3w1l 4y ago
I would go as far as impossible, but those proximity sensors cars use work pretty well.
- smolder 4y ago
  *wouldn't go [I don't know if there's something about HN or how people are using it, but these typos that make sentences have the opposite meaning seem far more frequent here than what I'd expect. I probably am biased towards noticing.]