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It's odd to think this is exclusive to the south. He could have just went and photographed the NYC projects. It's also not exclusive to that time period, which

It's odd to think this is exclusive to the south. He could have just went and photographed the NYC projects. It's also not exclusive to that time period, which wasn't long ago, there are still neighborhoods that look just as rough or worse, largely black, in the US right now.

wahnfrieden 4y ago
he grew up in/around nyc projects
woodruffw 4y ago
There is shocking poverty across the US, including in our cities. But no, NYC's projects and the south's poverty were not comparable in either breadth or depth, and still aren't[1]. [1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/27/health/plumbing-united-states-poverty.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/27/health/plumbing-united-st...
- nonethewiser 4y ago
  Very poor for sure. But she owns land. Compare that to people living in cells in the projects.
  - woodruffw 4y ago
    They’re apartments, not “cells.” And owning land doesn’t prevent indigence: it can make it worse. A good chunk of my family “owns land” in the Deep South, which is much more bucolic sounding than “lives in a mobile home next to the town dump.”
rayiner 4y ago
It’s not exclusive to the Deep South. It’s also in Appalachia and oddly enough in the Dakotas: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/dec/01/jim-webb/jim-webb-says-poorest-us-counties-are-appalachia-a/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/dec/01/jim-webb/j... My dad, who grew up in a village in Bangladesh, visited West Virginia many years ago and was shocked by what he saw. It genuinely had never occurred to him that there were Americans without indoor plumbing.
- hattmall 4y ago
  I really wonder how a site like that "fact check" can get things so wrong. Like I just took most of the stats at face value until I see something I'm familiar with. In this example Hancock County Ga is about 70% black, not white as they state. As well, and I don't fault them for not knowing it, but it's truly about 95% black. The north end of the county is vacation homes that people will claim as a primary residence for tax purposes but practically no one lives there. It's over an hour on dirt roads to the nearest dollar general.
nonethewiser 4y ago
Or the massive amount of trailer parks

wahnfrieden 4y ago

he grew up in/around nyc projects

woodruffw 4y ago

There is shocking poverty across the US, including in our cities. But no, NYC's projects and the south's poverty were not comparable in either breadth or depth, and still aren't[1]. [1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/27/health/plumbing-united-states-poverty.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/27/health/plumbing-united-st...

nonethewiser 4y ago
Very poor for sure. But she owns land. Compare that to people living in cells in the projects.
- woodruffw 4y ago
  They’re apartments, not “cells.” And owning land doesn’t prevent indigence: it can make it worse. A good chunk of my family “owns land” in the Deep South, which is much more bucolic sounding than “lives in a mobile home next to the town dump.”

rayiner 4y ago

It’s not exclusive to the Deep South. It’s also in Appalachia and oddly enough in the Dakotas: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/dec/01/jim-webb/jim-webb-says-poorest-us-counties-are-appalachia-a/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/dec/01/jim-webb/j... My dad, who grew up in a village in Bangladesh, visited West Virginia many years ago and was shocked by what he saw. It genuinely had never occurred to him that there were Americans without indoor plumbing.

hattmall 4y ago
I really wonder how a site like that "fact check" can get things so wrong. Like I just took most of the stats at face value until I see something I'm familiar with. In this example Hancock County Ga is about 70% black, not white as they state. As well, and I don't fault them for not knowing it, but it's truly about 95% black. The north end of the county is vacation homes that people will claim as a primary residence for tax purposes but practically no one lives there. It's over an hour on dirt roads to the nearest dollar general.

nonethewiser 4y ago

Or the massive amount of trailer parks