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I wish there was something comparable to Apple when it comes to performance and battery life. Are there any corporations working on something that could compet

I wish there was something comparable to Apple when it comes to performance and battery life. Are there any corporations working on something that could compete with M1/M2 in laptop space?

yamtaddle 4y ago
It's not just the hardware—it's the software. Apple gives more shits about power efficiency (and general respectfulness toward system resources & maintaining responsiveness) in software than anyone else building major consumer software platforms/ecosystems/operating-systems does. Apple Silicon is indeed near-magical, but iOS and macOS/OSX devices have been beating the competition on UI responsiveness and battery life often while having smaller batteries for years and years, including in the Intel Mac days. I became a convert in part because I was issued an Intel Macbook for work around 2011 and it was the first time I'd ever felt like I didn't need to carry my power brick everywhere.
- solarkraft 4y ago
  I maintain that most manufacturers just don't give a shit about quality - probably because they compete on price, not user experience. I can't think of any manufacturer that seems to actually care about issues that people who use Apple devices would consider glaring and unacceptable.
  - yamtaddle 4y ago
    It's why I consider Apple to have no direct competitors, which is a situation that I do not like (as an Apple user!) Nobody else seems to be seriously targeting the exact market segment they do, so if that's the segment you'd like to be in, your choices are Apple, and... that's the entire list. The others are so far off that Apple has a worrisomely-large "mistake line of credit", if you will, against which they may draw (and sometimes do) before reaching the point where switching would be an improvement, rather than just trading one set of problems for an even larger set of problems. Plus, downward price pressure isn't what it might be if they had closer competitors. All of which isn't great.
esskay 4y ago
IIRC a lot of the issues with competitors and battery life are an issue for Windows, and not their hardware. As long as Windows remains a hunk of junk they can't get close to Mac battery life levels without you having to cart around a much heavier battery.
- princevegeta89 4y ago
  ThinkPad X13s (Snapdragon ARM) either meets or even beats Apple Silicon Macbook battery life. We need to note that it's the CPU making all the difference here. The intel Macbooks always had mediocre battery life.
- tomnipotent 4y ago
  > are an issue for Windows Nope. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Windows-Linux-Power-Dell-XPS https://www.phoronix.com/news/Windows-Linux-Power-Dell-XPS

I wish there was something comparable to Apple when it comes to performance and battery life. Are there any corporations working on something that could compete with M1/M2 in laptop space?

yamtaddle 4y ago

It's not just the hardware—it's the software. Apple gives more shits about power efficiency (and general respectfulness toward system resources & maintaining responsiveness) in software than anyone else building major consumer software platforms/ecosystems/operating-systems does. Apple Silicon is indeed near-magical, but iOS and macOS/OSX devices have been beating the competition on UI responsiveness and battery life often while having smaller batteries for years and years, including in the Intel Mac days. I became a convert in part because I was issued an Intel Macbook for work around 2011 and it was the first time I'd ever felt like I didn't need to carry my power brick everywhere.

solarkraft 4y ago
I maintain that most manufacturers just don't give a shit about quality - probably because they compete on price, not user experience. I can't think of any manufacturer that seems to actually care about issues that people who use Apple devices would consider glaring and unacceptable.
- yamtaddle 4y ago
  It's why I consider Apple to have no direct competitors, which is a situation that I do not like (as an Apple user!) Nobody else seems to be seriously targeting the exact market segment they do, so if that's the segment you'd like to be in, your choices are Apple, and... that's the entire list. The others are so far off that Apple has a worrisomely-large "mistake line of credit", if you will, against which they may draw (and sometimes do) before reaching the point where switching would be an improvement, rather than just trading one set of problems for an even larger set of problems. Plus, downward price pressure isn't what it might be if they had closer competitors. All of which isn't great.

esskay 4y ago

IIRC a lot of the issues with competitors and battery life are an issue for Windows, and not their hardware. As long as Windows remains a hunk of junk they can't get close to Mac battery life levels without you having to cart around a much heavier battery.

princevegeta89 4y ago
ThinkPad X13s (Snapdragon ARM) either meets or even beats Apple Silicon Macbook battery life. We need to note that it's the CPU making all the difference here. The intel Macbooks always had mediocre battery life.
tomnipotent 4y ago
> are an issue for Windows Nope. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Windows-Linux-Power-Dell-XPS https://www.phoronix.com/news/Windows-Linux-Power-Dell-XPS