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And now, in the world we live in, they know that they can do what they want and there will not be any consequence for them. Look, their neighbor killed and cho
by greatgib 4y ago
And now, in the world we live in, they know that they can do what they want and there will not be any consequence for them.
Look, their neighbor killed and chopped a journalist in a foreign country, and except a few "offended letters" from some ambassadors, it is like forgotten.
I really count the days until the middle east countries will run out of petrol or that we will not need that anymore!
- mertd 4y agoSaudis have 200 years of oil left. Another scenario is oil becoming a minor source of global energy supply. The time horizon of both events is likely decades if not a century.
- sitkack 4y agoAs soon as it ceases being an energy source for technology, it will transition into a food source for humans. A barrel of oil contains 1.7MWh of energy, a grilled cheese sandwich is about 435 Wh of energy. A barrel of oil contains the equivalent of about 3900 grilled cheese sandwiches. At 80$/barrel, that is a 0.02USD per sandwich.
- photonbeam 4y agoHow do you convert it to food?
- pkaye 4y agoMake asphalt sandwiches?
- midoridensha 4y agoCan't oil be used as a fertilizer somehow?
- Calavar 4y agoFissile uranium is a much denser energy source than oil. We should eat that first.
- sitkack 4y agoIf you could convert the Uranium into a hydrocarbon first. Otherwise you would be an alchemist. You could have a Uranium powered greenhouse, light and heat. Might be better to use it as an energy source for converting oil into food.
- markdown 4y agoI mean, the US invaded two countries under false pretences and killed hundreds of thousands of people, many of whom were disintegrated into dust, and instead of "offended letters" from some ambassadors, had many other countries show strong support. But it's the middle east countries that are a problem.
- dontlaugh 4y agoThe US-backed Middle Eastern countries can be a problem also.
- recuter 4y agoYes sadly, it is in fact the middle east countries that are the problem. That's why they got invaded.
- zen_1 4y agoUnfortunately, the biggest "problem country" in the middle east is the one that's the safest from US invasion.
- midoridensha 4y agoWhich countries were those? Iraq was definitely invaded under false pretenses: "WMD". Afghanistan was not: it really did have Al Qaeda training camps and the Taliban refused to do anything about it. Of course, you can argue that the US expanded the mission greatly from "squash OBL and AQ" to "overthrow the Taliban and turn Afghanistan into New Norway", which was doomed to failure, but the initial invasion (of the AQ camps) was justified. Don't forget, the US didn't just invade and take over all by itself: it partnered with some pre-existing rebel groups and helped them take over and set up a new government.
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- recuter 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflict... Millions of casualties in Syria and Yemen and so forth are entirely self contained to Arab countries and regimes. No shortage of atrocities performed by muslims on muslims in that part of the world, lets not be coy. The US for its part never took Iraqi oil. Once that stuff runs out not much will stand in the way of a massive increase in poverty and violence.
- sitkack 4y agoOh come on, you know it wasn't about the substance of the oil, it was about the currency the oil was traded in.
- recuter 4y agoFeel free to look into how much of the oil revenue of Iraq actually reaches everyday citizens as opposed to being stolen by corrupt government officials and then explain what difference the currency would make and who is at fault.
- sitkack 4y agoNon-sequitur. You are arguing in bad faith. Done.
- frereubu 4y agoAs to anyone with power caring, you're probably not far wrong, but it's not forgotten in the English Premier League, where one of the long-standing teams, Newcastle United, who've been playing in one form or another since 1892, were bought by the Saudi sovereign wealth fund: https://icdn.empireofthekop.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Screenshot-2021-10-26-at-18.50.15.jpg https://icdn.empireofthekop.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/S... Fans feel pretty powerless (and many Newcastle fans are dismayed too) but these protests are ongoing.
- eric-burel 4y agoThis is low quality commenting What's the point of involving Saudis in the discussion? Are you a renewable energy researcher, investor or at least hobbyist? Don't you think it's important that countries around the world, despite major differences of human development, keep trying to build relationship? It's important to point out unacceptable behavior from any country, this article is very great in this respect But such bland generalizations (your comment, not the article) are good for family dinner not for sharing on the web
- greatgib 4y agoMy point is that now bad behaviors commonly goes unpunished and that leads to the bad students to thrive and the good student to be ruined little by little. Look at the Saudi and Fifa corruption examples, in both cases the bad states do not bear any bad consequences but here are the ones in the good parts of the world: - corruption is expanded, giving an incentive to bad actors to have bad behaviors, leading honest democratic countries to the downard path. - free voices (journalists and co) tone down in the whole world because of fear as it get obvious that bad actor can target you physically or economically wherever you are in the world.
- mr90210 4y agoEverybody is doing something that goes unpunished, just look closer.
- palata 4y agoYou misunderstood the parent. Not everybody can do whatever they want. But those guys kind if can.
- bottled_poe 4y agoI think you would find that looking closer would reveal a world of difference.
- holoduke 4y agoUnfortunately they probably also contain lots of lithium. Just recently in Iran second biggest reserve is found. And lithium is the new black gold.
- panick21_ 4y agoGod I'm so sick of this nonsense. No, lithium is not 'black gold'. Lithium is absurdly common and availability of lithium is borderline meaningless. Extract and refining lithium is a tiny business and even with many more years of growth its still a pretty tiny business. It will never be even close to oil in any meaningful metric. Its not an energy source is a 3% of a storage medium for energy. And on the is common. And can be recycled.
- midoridensha 4y agoIt's not an energy source, but if worldwide demand for lithium-based batteries goes up exponentially with electrification of transport modes and use for grid storage systems, then the value of lithium will also go up greatly.
- erenyeager 4y agoI mean US still has the torture chambers of Guantanamo bay, not to mention all the war crimes and “collateral” damage from the wars and “special operations” over the years. So really at least Saudis got backlash and had to absolve their king, US ignored the backlash and continues injustice. At least the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are over, but every day the US military apparatus gains blood on its hands, even if indirectly (I’m thinking specifically sanctions targeted at Afghanistan, among other unjust things the US supports).
- recuter 4y agohttps://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/war-yemen https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/war-yem... It is not possible for a country in the position of the US to not get its hands dirty, this isn't a touchy feel world. You are engaging is false equivocation.
- erenyeager 4y agoFalse equivocation? Certainly the US doesn’t need to get involved or hands dirty with everything; this is a choice by its leaders. It is a government policy to enable such cruelty and use soft power to manipulate perceptions. The false equivocation is calling out other countries when similar or worse atrocities have been carried out by the Us and there still are no reparations, restitutions, or repercussions to dissuade continued US aggression and transgression. I am all for scrutiny of governments, but to leverage one against another while ignoring or downplaying, it is not a real argument, it’s optics.
- recuter 4y agoThe comparison is between countries with wildly different roles in the world my friend. It is not apt.
- erenyeager 4y agoThat type of belief is, in my opinion, self-serving and a way to justify geopolitical hierarchies. You may as well say the quiet part out loud that people from weaker countries are worth less.