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Does it even matter if it has good feedback or not? Everybody hates every new app redesign, yet everbody still uses them and hates more the next ones and compa

Does it even matter if it has good feedback or not? Everybody hates every new app redesign, yet everbody still uses them and hates more the next ones and companies keep making millions and billions of money. I wish people would just uninstall any app they don’t like or they would consider addicting.

solarkraft 4y ago
Some time last year I finally realized it's really only going to become worse in the foreseeable future (I could've seen this earlier, but had faint hope left that at some point they'd have to listen to their customers). It has consistently gotten worse over the last 5 years I've been a customer and podcasts were my final straw. I moved to Tidal. It's not exactly perfect either (still pushing crappy playlists on you), but at least they take their job somewhat seriously: Playing me my damn music without too much fuss. Their algorithmic recommendations have become quite good too - even this Spotify somehow managed to mess up, playing me the same 10 songs all the time.
- tvink 4y ago
  I've migrated too, but the biggest letdown for me so far is the total absence of genre playlists. If you're lucky you'll find 3 playlists by users when you search for something like "Deep House", it's really not great for deliberate discovery :/ But the quality of the audio has locked me in hard.
  - MavisBacon 4y ago
    I’ve found that their editorial playlists are pretty badass but the problem is they don’t have obvious names. Like I’ve got one I really enjoy that is basically non-country music with pedal steel guitar that’s titled “Space Western” and there’s a slowcore playlist I dig called “Sad & Slow To The Core”. All of that to say- you’ve just gotta poke around. They didn’t even introduce user-generated playlists until fairly recently I think
- MavisBacon 4y ago
  Yeah I made the switch to Tidal a few years back and am quite happy. UI is simple, usable, attractive, software works mostly flawlessly, and the algo is indeed amazing. Spotify’s recommendations were so shallow for me compared to Tidal. I actually now discover most of my new artists through the Tidal algo Oh and my favorite aspect of Tidal is being able to browse the credits for releases and find things like names of producers, writers, session players
bobbyi 4y ago
I thought superior UI was the reason to use Spotify rather than YouTube Music, at least if you don't care about Spotify's exclusive podcasts?
- higeorge13 4y ago
  I prefer not using anything than bad ux. I uninstalled the app because the android app ux was bad and i couldn’t tune the recommendation engine. Now autoplay? Good luck if there are no settings for this. Same applied to fb, insta and similar apps btw.
dannyphantom 4y ago
I know that my anecdote is largely worthless at scale - but I've been with Spotify since high school and there isn't much, if anything, that will get me to leave. It has my entire life wrapped up in the platform through all of my playlists - but the real value, for me, is still being able to access the profiles and playlists from friends that are no longer here that are preserved forever(.) - our stories are saved in the both the playlist name and songs within it that have never been removed from their catalog. I, like most everyone else at my school, was only using Pandora (in high school) - but it was not widely loved as it had been steadily going downhill (before 2015); when Spotify was released it, nearly instantly, captured me with the design [1], catalog, and ability to discover adjacently related artists. My 'Daily Mixes' are all very, very good - and I understand that is because I've spent the better part of a decade curating my experience. UI is whatever at the end of the day - sometimes changes are abrupt, clunky and non-intuitive (looking at you, Reddit Redesign ::middle finger::) but the underlying truth, for me, is that I'm fully adopted to the service - I've 'been there', so to speak: - I remember in 2014 when '1989' by Taylor Swift was released and her music had not been added to the Spotify catalog; it was a waiting game but it eventually got there - The 'Spotify Wrapped' was really fun to share with friends - and it still is! It was pretty funny to see 'Reddit Recap', along with other services, follow the format. Plus, I still have access to all of my old 'Wrapped' playlists since 2016. - They sent me a 'Car Thing' for free, I was able to have Hulu in undergrad, they've sent me some gifts for being a 'superfan' over the years which was fun. I hear what you're saying about uninstalling apps - the /spotify sub is kind of an echo chamber of complaints - which is okay and is their prerogative - but I just don't feel compelled to participate because I've been with it so long and it has consistently achieved the singular goal of what the service is, and does it very, very well (in my opinion). [1] https://community.spotify.com/t5/Community-Blog/10-Year-Evolution-Spotify-Apps/ba-p/5331115 https://community.spotify.com/t5/Community-Blog/10-Year-Evol... (.) of course Spotify will remove those accounts at some point; but I've made my own backups of them so they are "immortalized" for when that day does come eventually.

solarkraft 4y ago

Some time last year I finally realized it's really only going to become worse in the foreseeable future (I could've seen this earlier, but had faint hope left that at some point they'd have to listen to their customers). It has consistently gotten worse over the last 5 years I've been a customer and podcasts were my final straw. I moved to Tidal. It's not exactly perfect either (still pushing crappy playlists on you), but at least they take their job somewhat seriously: Playing me my damn music without too much fuss. Their algorithmic recommendations have become quite good too - even this Spotify somehow managed to mess up, playing me the same 10 songs all the time.

tvink 4y ago
I've migrated too, but the biggest letdown for me so far is the total absence of genre playlists. If you're lucky you'll find 3 playlists by users when you search for something like "Deep House", it's really not great for deliberate discovery :/ But the quality of the audio has locked me in hard.
- MavisBacon 4y ago
  I’ve found that their editorial playlists are pretty badass but the problem is they don’t have obvious names. Like I’ve got one I really enjoy that is basically non-country music with pedal steel guitar that’s titled “Space Western” and there’s a slowcore playlist I dig called “Sad & Slow To The Core”. All of that to say- you’ve just gotta poke around. They didn’t even introduce user-generated playlists until fairly recently I think
MavisBacon 4y ago
Yeah I made the switch to Tidal a few years back and am quite happy. UI is simple, usable, attractive, software works mostly flawlessly, and the algo is indeed amazing. Spotify’s recommendations were so shallow for me compared to Tidal. I actually now discover most of my new artists through the Tidal algo Oh and my favorite aspect of Tidal is being able to browse the credits for releases and find things like names of producers, writers, session players

bobbyi 4y ago

I thought superior UI was the reason to use Spotify rather than YouTube Music, at least if you don't care about Spotify's exclusive podcasts?

higeorge13 4y ago
I prefer not using anything than bad ux. I uninstalled the app because the android app ux was bad and i couldn’t tune the recommendation engine. Now autoplay? Good luck if there are no settings for this. Same applied to fb, insta and similar apps btw.

dannyphantom 4y ago

I know that my anecdote is largely worthless at scale - but I've been with Spotify since high school and there isn't much, if anything, that will get me to leave. It has my entire life wrapped up in the platform through all of my playlists - but the real value, for me, is still being able to access the profiles and playlists from friends that are no longer here that are preserved forever(.) - our stories are saved in the both the playlist name and songs within it that have never been removed from their catalog. I, like most everyone else at my school, was only using Pandora (in high school) - but it was not widely loved as it had been steadily going downhill (before 2015); when Spotify was released it, nearly instantly, captured me with the design [1], catalog, and ability to discover adjacently related artists. My 'Daily Mixes' are all very, very good - and I understand that is because I've spent the better part of a decade curating my experience. UI is whatever at the end of the day - sometimes changes are abrupt, clunky and non-intuitive (looking at you, Reddit Redesign ::middle finger::) but the underlying truth, for me, is that I'm fully adopted to the service - I've 'been there', so to speak: - I remember in 2014 when '1989' by Taylor Swift was released and her music had not been added to the Spotify catalog; it was a waiting game but it eventually got there - The 'Spotify Wrapped' was really fun to share with friends - and it still is! It was pretty funny to see 'Reddit Recap', along with other services, follow the format. Plus, I still have access to all of my old 'Wrapped' playlists since 2016. - They sent me a 'Car Thing' for free, I was able to have Hulu in undergrad, they've sent me some gifts for being a 'superfan' over the years which was fun. I hear what you're saying about uninstalling apps - the /spotify sub is kind of an echo chamber of complaints - which is okay and is their prerogative - but I just don't feel compelled to participate because I've been with it so long and it has consistently achieved the singular goal of what the service is, and does it very, very well (in my opinion). [1] https://community.spotify.com/t5/Community-Blog/10-Year-Evolution-Spotify-Apps/ba-p/5331115 https://community.spotify.com/t5/Community-Blog/10-Year-Evol... (.) of course Spotify will remove those accounts at some point; but I've made my own backups of them so they are "immortalized" for when that day does come eventually.