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I just don’t think it will be popular. It’s just going to be seen as “fake dairy” which will have limited appeal. Don’t need any conspiracy theories to explain

I just don’t think it will be popular. It’s just going to be seen as “fake dairy” which will have limited appeal. Don’t need any conspiracy theories to explain it.

Dalewyn 4y ago
As far as I'm concerned, you can't have dairy with no cow. Dairy-free faux-dairy products should market themselves for what they are instead of lying.
- BreakfastB0b 4y ago
  Meaning is use. “Milk” is a fuzzy collection of properties and use cases. Which is why when you say “coconut milk” or “oat milk” people aren’t confused. Hell, cows aren’t magic. Even “real milk” is just a collection of sugars, proteins, etc. If there’s no difference between the two then what’s the distinction?
- exegete 4y ago
  It’s not faux dairy in this case. It’s literally the same molecular makeup but from a fermentation process. It is actual dairy.
  - hunter-gatherer 4y ago
    I've found explaining this to people when I have had some brave robot to be a hard point to hit home for some reason. I'm not sure why.
  - Dalewyn 4y ago
    https://merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dairy https://merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dairy 4 : milk from a cow or other domestic animal (such as a goat) also : food (such as ice cream, cheese, or yogurt) made primarily of or from milk -------------- Dairy specifically means and implies a cow (or similar domestic animal) as the origin of the food product. Where it comes from is just as important as what it is, if not more. Thus I reiterate: You can't have dairy with no cow.
    - Karunamon 4y ago
      Dictionaries are not prescriptive and are not an authoritative source for the meaning of a word. They will lag behind usage, sometimes for many years. Usage determines meaning, not Webster. Again, nobody is confused by terms like "coconut milk" or "almond milk".
      - Dalewyn 4y ago
        They can call this milk all they want, but they can't call this dairy. The comments I replied to were discussing the likelihood of this stuff sharing the same floor area with dairy products.
        Karunamon 4y ago
        Oat milk and other such products have always been sold adjacent to the dairy milk, usually in the same coolers, in literally every grocery store I have ever visited.
    - CuriouslyC 4y ago
      That definition is only stated that way because completely synthetic milk is something most people haven't conceived of.
    - exegete 4y ago
      Ok well if we’re talking molecular structure it’s identical so I look forward to Webster adding that meaning in a few years as usage picks up in the English-speaking world.
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piyh 4y ago
Half of what's on the shelf is already called frozen dairy dessert and not ice cream. Drop the word dairy and it's not that much different to the consumer.

I just don’t think it will be popular. It’s just going to be seen as “fake dairy” which will have limited appeal. Don’t need any conspiracy theories to explain it.

Dalewyn 4y ago

As far as I'm concerned, you can't have dairy with no cow. Dairy-free faux-dairy products should market themselves for what they are instead of lying.

BreakfastB0b 4y ago
Meaning is use. “Milk” is a fuzzy collection of properties and use cases. Which is why when you say “coconut milk” or “oat milk” people aren’t confused. Hell, cows aren’t magic. Even “real milk” is just a collection of sugars, proteins, etc. If there’s no difference between the two then what’s the distinction?
exegete 4y ago
It’s not faux dairy in this case. It’s literally the same molecular makeup but from a fermentation process. It is actual dairy.
- hunter-gatherer 4y ago
  I've found explaining this to people when I have had some brave robot to be a hard point to hit home for some reason. I'm not sure why.
- Dalewyn 4y ago
  https://merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dairy https://merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dairy 4 : milk from a cow or other domestic animal (such as a goat) also : food (such as ice cream, cheese, or yogurt) made primarily of or from milk -------------- Dairy specifically means and implies a cow (or similar domestic animal) as the origin of the food product. Where it comes from is just as important as what it is, if not more. Thus I reiterate: You can't have dairy with no cow.
  - Karunamon 4y ago
    Dictionaries are not prescriptive and are not an authoritative source for the meaning of a word. They will lag behind usage, sometimes for many years. Usage determines meaning, not Webster. Again, nobody is confused by terms like "coconut milk" or "almond milk".
    - Dalewyn 4y ago
      They can call this milk all they want, but they can't call this dairy. The comments I replied to were discussing the likelihood of this stuff sharing the same floor area with dairy products.
      - Karunamon 4y ago
        Oat milk and other such products have always been sold adjacent to the dairy milk, usually in the same coolers, in literally every grocery store I have ever visited.
  - CuriouslyC 4y ago
    That definition is only stated that way because completely synthetic milk is something most people haven't conceived of.
  - exegete 4y ago
    Ok well if we’re talking molecular structure it’s identical so I look forward to Webster adding that meaning in a few years as usage picks up in the English-speaking world.

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piyh 4y ago

Half of what's on the shelf is already called frozen dairy dessert and not ice cream. Drop the word dairy and it's not that much different to the consumer.