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...Blackburn, however, says researchers will continue to find a way to scrutinize what’s happening on Twitter. “We’ve been mostly cut off from Facebook for year

...Blackburn, however, says researchers will continue to find a way to scrutinize what’s happening on Twitter. “We’ve been mostly cut off from Facebook for years and we’ve continued to make progress,” he says. “It’s not like science is going to be held hostage by a guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts.”

SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
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- mehlmao 4y ago
  What was censored under Dorsey that isn't censored under Musk?
  - sneak 4y ago
    The Twitter Files come to mind.
    - KyeRussell 4y ago
      They didn’t MEAN anything.
- JohnFen 4y ago
  > maybe they're doing it because their political ideology I can't speak for anyone but myself, but my attitude about this has nothing to do with politics.
- officeplant 4y ago
  >their political ideology demands purity I wasn't aware Musk had one.
  - sonotathrowaway 4y ago
    Of course he doesn’t, he just endorses republicans, selectively leaks information to help them, and attacks their enemies. If that’s not the model of neutrality, then nothing is.
- slg 4y ago
  It is possible to criticize Musk and his management of Twitter for completely apolitical reasons. You have to be a sycophant to describe his management style as anything other than chaotic. There are literally employees at the company who don't have any work because there is no one to assign them to a department or team. There are people who don't even know if they work there anymore because the layoffs were handled so poorly. It goes way beyond Musk's opinions on free speech or whatever political opinion you want to blame. The whole purchase has clearly been a train wreck up until this point.
  - starik36 4y ago
    Yes, it's possible. But saying "guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts" isn't the way. It just reveals their biases.
    - devjab 4y ago
      Is it? I'm not on Twitter and I'm Danish so I'm not really caught up on American identity politics, outside of what you hear online, but is that really revealing any bias of that sort? It sounds like someone who has a dislike for Musk, but really, I think this could be said about most of the billionaires running social media platforms from a certain point of view. I think we should still put a lot of the blame on ourselves, but really, our political institutions shouldn't be on these centralized social medias if you ask me. They should be running their own instances of something like mastodon, so that it's not an American tech company that gets to moderate Danish politicians. Which isn't really a right or left leaning point of view where I come from. Frankly saying that Musk burnt $44 billion on a website that makes no money could also just being laughing at the whole situation. I think it's been sort of hilarious to follow, but being Danish, we do have a nice tradition for enjoying watching successful people fail. That being said, you may also be right, but I think it's a bit of stretch to boil this down to political bias of the sort, because there is frankly a bunch of reasons to laugh at twitter right now that have nothing to do with politics.
    - scott_w 4y ago
ZunarJ5 4y ago
If you would like to contribute to monitoring Facebook, consider adding Ad Observer to your browser. It's non-intrusive. https://adobserver.org/ https://adobserver.org/ AdObserver is a project of Cybersecurity for Democracy at New York University’s Tandon School of Engineering. This extension was originally developed by researchers from the Algorithmic Transparency Institute, Quartz, New York University, and the University of Grenoble. Technical advice was also provided by ProPublica, WhoTargetsMe, and The Globe And Mail.
- CommitSyn 4y ago
  I assume this will still work with uBlock Origin et al. activated?
  - ZunarJ5 4y ago
    I assume so, but am not certain.
- ahahahahah 4y ago
  "If you think Cambridge Analytical was great, try this thing that's even better!"
  - ahahahahah 4y ago
    To be clear, people should not be using this thing that has no limits on what data it could be consuming. The CA thing people were upset about was that one user could give CA permission to read their FB data and that meant that CA had access to anything that that user had access to (like data that their friends shared with them). This is the same, without it even pretending to be limited by the restrictions that CA was limited by.
    - ZunarJ5 4y ago
      The code is open source on GitHub. https://github.com/CybersecurityForDemocracy/social-media-collector https://github.com/CybersecurityForDemocracy/social-media-co...
user3939382 4y ago
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- ModernMech 4y ago
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  - user3939382 4y ago
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  - ahahahahah 4y ago
    The white house wasn't even doing the same. The fbi was pointing out tweets that violated Twitter's rules and suggesting that they evaluate them but that it was totally up to Twitter about what to do. The white house was pointing out tweets that embarrassed or otherwise hurt Trump's feelings and demanding that Twitter take them down
    - user3939382 4y ago
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      - l33t233372 4y ago
        Where did you hear that?
        JackAndJack 4y ago
        Go read Twitter Files
        lostdog 4y ago
        I read some of them, and I don't know what they're referring to. Could you link to the relevant "file?" Would be even better if you had a secondary source that confirms the "file's" claims.

SV_BubbleTime 4y ago

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mehlmao 4y ago
What was censored under Dorsey that isn't censored under Musk?
- sneak 4y ago
  The Twitter Files come to mind.
  - KyeRussell 4y ago
    They didn’t MEAN anything.
JohnFen 4y ago
> maybe they're doing it because their political ideology I can't speak for anyone but myself, but my attitude about this has nothing to do with politics.
officeplant 4y ago
>their political ideology demands purity I wasn't aware Musk had one.
- sonotathrowaway 4y ago
  Of course he doesn’t, he just endorses republicans, selectively leaks information to help them, and attacks their enemies. If that’s not the model of neutrality, then nothing is.
slg 4y ago
It is possible to criticize Musk and his management of Twitter for completely apolitical reasons. You have to be a sycophant to describe his management style as anything other than chaotic. There are literally employees at the company who don't have any work because there is no one to assign them to a department or team. There are people who don't even know if they work there anymore because the layoffs were handled so poorly. It goes way beyond Musk's opinions on free speech or whatever political opinion you want to blame. The whole purchase has clearly been a train wreck up until this point.
- starik36 4y ago
  Yes, it's possible. But saying "guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts" isn't the way. It just reveals their biases.
  - devjab 4y ago
    Is it? I'm not on Twitter and I'm Danish so I'm not really caught up on American identity politics, outside of what you hear online, but is that really revealing any bias of that sort? It sounds like someone who has a dislike for Musk, but really, I think this could be said about most of the billionaires running social media platforms from a certain point of view. I think we should still put a lot of the blame on ourselves, but really, our political institutions shouldn't be on these centralized social medias if you ask me. They should be running their own instances of something like mastodon, so that it's not an American tech company that gets to moderate Danish politicians. Which isn't really a right or left leaning point of view where I come from. Frankly saying that Musk burnt $44 billion on a website that makes no money could also just being laughing at the whole situation. I think it's been sort of hilarious to follow, but being Danish, we do have a nice tradition for enjoying watching successful people fail. That being said, you may also be right, but I think it's a bit of stretch to boil this down to political bias of the sort, because there is frankly a bunch of reasons to laugh at twitter right now that have nothing to do with politics.
  - scott_w 4y ago

ZunarJ5 4y ago

If you would like to contribute to monitoring Facebook, consider adding Ad Observer to your browser. It's non-intrusive. https://adobserver.org/ https://adobserver.org/ AdObserver is a project of Cybersecurity for Democracy at New York University’s Tandon School of Engineering. This extension was originally developed by researchers from the Algorithmic Transparency Institute, Quartz, New York University, and the University of Grenoble. Technical advice was also provided by ProPublica, WhoTargetsMe, and The Globe And Mail.

CommitSyn 4y ago
I assume this will still work with uBlock Origin et al. activated?
- ZunarJ5 4y ago
  I assume so, but am not certain.
ahahahahah 4y ago
"If you think Cambridge Analytical was great, try this thing that's even better!"
- ahahahahah 4y ago
  To be clear, people should not be using this thing that has no limits on what data it could be consuming. The CA thing people were upset about was that one user could give CA permission to read their FB data and that meant that CA had access to anything that that user had access to (like data that their friends shared with them). This is the same, without it even pretending to be limited by the restrictions that CA was limited by.
  - ZunarJ5 4y ago
    The code is open source on GitHub. https://github.com/CybersecurityForDemocracy/social-media-collector https://github.com/CybersecurityForDemocracy/social-media-co...

user3939382 4y ago

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ModernMech 4y ago
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- user3939382 4y ago
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- ahahahahah 4y ago
  The white house wasn't even doing the same. The fbi was pointing out tweets that violated Twitter's rules and suggesting that they evaluate them but that it was totally up to Twitter about what to do. The white house was pointing out tweets that embarrassed or otherwise hurt Trump's feelings and demanding that Twitter take them down
  - user3939382 4y ago
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    - l33t233372 4y ago
      Where did you hear that?
      - JackAndJack 4y ago
        Go read Twitter Files
        lostdog 4y ago
        I read some of them, and I don't know what they're referring to. Could you link to the relevant "file?" Would be even better if you had a secondary source that confirms the "file's" claims.