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Blind: Meta's layoff rumor March 14-16, cut ~1200 D1-D2-M1, M2 and most M0
- infamouscow 4y agoCan someone explain what D and M roles are for those unfamiliar? Thanks!
- firstfewshells 4y agohere's a listing for a D role https://www.themuse.com/jobs/meta/director-product-technical-program-management-357fe8 https://www.themuse.com/jobs/meta/director-product-technical... it's basically smooth talking.
- javierhonduco 4y agoThey are levels in the management track. M: Manager D: Director The rough matching of levels is: M0, E5 or senior engineer, M1 to E6 or staff engineer, M2 for manager of managers, etc. Director is the level above M2.
- oars 4y agoHere's a mapping of Manager levels to other companies such as Google, Amazon and Microsoft: https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Facebook,Microsoft,Google,Amazon&track=Software%20Engineering%20Manager https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Facebook,Microsoft,Google,Am... And as another point of reference, mapping of Engineer levels to these same companies: https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Facebook,Microsoft,Google,Amazon&track=Software%20Engineer https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Facebook,Microsoft,Google,Am...
- mbStavola 4y agoIt's their designator for management path employees. I'm assuming it's (D)irector and (M)anager.
- gnrl 4y ago(D)irector and (M)anager. Director are Manager who manage Manager.
- firstfewshells 4y agoIf this turns out to be true, I hope it's a watershed moment in the tech industry. Lots of middle management in other companies will be sweating since they'll need to do something better than just asking "hey, when do you think this can be done?".
- dzonga 4y agoyeah a lot of deadwood engineering managers. like you've a manager on top of a manager, then another manager, then finally director. then vp then CTO.
- firstfewshells 4y agomost of them are coasting, hosting "bonding" events, socializing, holding useless 1:1s where you're supposed to "take the lead", just utter bs.
- gabereiser 4y agoYou forgot meetings to plan for meetings
- dekhn 4y agoI had a manager who had a manager who had an director who had a director who had a VP who had a VP who had an SVP who reported to the CEO. I may have left out a few layers.
- science4sail 4y agoThat layer cake can go much deeper. M0 -> M1 -> M1 -> M2 -> M2 -> D1 -> D1 -> D2 -> D2 -> VP -> VP -> VP -> CxO -> CEO Mx = manager Dx = director
- adam_arthur 4y agoPeople don't want to accept it on this forum, but with VC money drying up, lessened risk taking, widespread layoffs, plus large influx of workers via career changes, remote work leading to CoL arbitrage, wages are likely to decline pretty broadly across the industry. Especially so at the upper end FAANG comp bands. Likely most of these previously 500k+ comp packages will compress closer to 300k. Issuing RSUs at lowered valuation multiples is much less viable for a public company. Some public companies have ~50% or more of their revenue consumed by stock based comp, which is clearly not sustainable. It will impact me too, but I accept it as the most likely outcome
- mysecretaccount 4y agoNo mention of impact to ICs. Seems strange to me.
- shmatt 4y ago* Blind post by non Meta employee *. Post itself is a screenshot of a notes app This is as reliable as an anonymous egg-profile tweet The whole idea with Blind is to read from people inside the company, where Blind verified they are indeed inside
- varelse 4y ago[dead]
- xtqctz 4y agoMeta’s blind is full of troll posts like this right now. The most obvious tells that this is fake are: - Part about Boz (very unlikely & a Meta blind meme) - Reference to Bain (there was a false rumor they were involved in the November layoffs.)
- fatnoah 4y agoThe hierarchy was very sparse in many orgs. As an M1 (first tier manager), I managed a team of 13 people. My manager only had 3-4 people, and same for their manager. There definitely was a lot of room to flatten the hierarchy.
- OmegaPG 4y agoTeamblind has successfully predicted 10 off the last 3 layoffs
- DeathArrow 4y agoWho cares about Meta?
- secondcoming 4y agoWhat is this website?