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My mom works 12 hour shifts as a CNC machinist in the United States. Is there some point to this article or is it just neat to know?
by jklinger410 4y ago
My mom works 12 hour shifts as a CNC machinist in the United States. Is there some point to this article or is it just neat to know?
- pjmlp 4y agoYes, most modern countries have between 35 and 40 hour work weeks.
- neither_color 4y agoI don't believe that "most modern countries" don't make exceptions for work that requires it or critical fields. In fact, those of us who've worked non-traditional shifts usually get some perk out of it. When I worked 12 hour shifts I'd work 3-5 days in a row, then get the same amount of days off. To this day 5 days on 5 days off is the best schedule I've ever had. I also had a friend working in mines up north in Canada. He'd work on-shift for weeks at a time and then get 3 weeks off with a flight paid anywhere he wants in the world. Is Canada not a modern country?
- ddren 4y agoIs there anything about sitting in a line manufacturing electronics that requires 12 hours shifts?
- fnordpiglet 4y agoProfit
- YeahNO 4y agoAnd it isn't for the peons doing all the work...
- fnordpiglet 4y agoWell……. The peons need to feed their kids and send them to school and shelter their families. So, yes, actually it is for them too. 12 hour shift jobs usually pay better and have longer contiguous time off. But, yes, these are all happy side effects. Profit doesn’t give a shit, and if it could find a way to get the same for less it would.
- kshacker 4y agoI never worked in a line, but have seen a lot of antiwork discussions, and also the discussions on commute ... I know 12 hour shifts are arduous, but you do 12 hour shifts for 4 days then on one hand you reduce 1-2 days of commute, and on the other hand maybe you can commute at better commute hours.
- jklinger410 4y agoIndia has a 48 hour work week which is unrelated to this article.
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- seanmcdirmid 4y agoMost modern "developed" countries. 48 hour standard work weeks are pretty standard for developing countries.
- jachee 4y agoHow many of those shifts does she work in a week?
- jklinger410 4y agoNot sure, but I assume 40 hours total. It looks like India has a nationwide maximum of 48 hours before overtime. So they have a whole extra day's work than we do in the US. That is now for both men and women.
- asdajksah2123 4y agoThe contract team I used to work with would work Mon-Sat. That then changed to Mon-Fri + alternate Sats, but over a decade ago they simply became Mon-Fri. So at least in tech, it seems the norm is becoming to work 40 hr days as well.
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- inasio 4y agoA lot of hospitals (and Tesla plants) have four 12 hour days, then 3 days off (the next batch switches to nights though). Works neatly to around 40 hour weeks, but very hard to match to school schedules, plus switching days and nights weekly is tough.
- Calvin02 4y agoDoes she work more than 40 hours / week? If so, she very likely gets paid 1.5x for any hours worked above 40. Do you think Apple and Foxconn are paying Indian women time and a half for hours above 40? That said, I'm nearly 100% certain that these women would rather have these jobs working in a clean facility than the alternative.
- cornholio 4y agoThey have 48 h weeks and the ability to add an extra 50 hours per month. There's a name for places with a 60 hour work week: they are called sweat shops.
- pb7 4y agoSomeone tell the people working at startups.
- cornholio 4y agoThat's very different: startupers are generally capitalists, they either own the company or have vigorous stock compensation. They don't rent their work to scrape a meager existence, they compound their capital with the expectation of a large payoff and generally have the option of a job.
- spicybright 4y agoAlthough it's not great to need to work that much, you can make absolute bank doing overtime. My mom's a nurse and occasionally gets called in out of the blue if there's shortages. If she agrees, she can get x2 to sometimes even x3 depending on what time and day of the year it is. As much of a drag it can be getting woken up to work, she still gets excited when it happens because of how good the pay is.
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- Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago12 hour shifts, and night shifts for anything but emergency services are inhumane. https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/18/us-workers-night-shift-takes-toll https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/18/us-workers-n...
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- lisasays 4y agoYou might want to look into the overall workinig, compensation and living standards in these countries. Especially for the kinds of plants that Apple runs. And how they might be just a bit ...those of a skilled machinist in the U.S. That might have something to do with the article's point. And would be "neat" for you to know as well.
- jklinger410 4y agoI will get my mom to send me a picture of the production floor of her factory, you get me a picture of an Indian Foxconn plant, and we will see how different they truly are.