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Its this kind of stuff that makes me think all the global warming hysteria must be overblown. If it were really as dire as environmentalists would have you bel

Its this kind of stuff that makes me think all the global warming hysteria must be overblown. If it were really as dire as environmentalists would have you believe, they wouldnt be fighting this kind of stuff (or nuclear). The only real accomplishment the global warming people have achieved is to make energy much more expensive and energy supplies much more unstable (e.g. california, europe) Most environmentalists surely have good intentions, but they (like most people) are not experts on climate science and those that are have conflicted interests. For academics, you can only get one answer or you are cast out and shunned as a big oil lackey. For activist groups like greenpeace etc they only raise money by being alarmist. And then some are simply motivated by the desire to hurt western economies. https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2020/12/21/chinas_green_ngo_climate_propaganda_enablers_654042.html https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2020/12/21/chinas_g...

caf 4y ago
It's almost like "they" aren't some monolithic borg that agree on everything, isn't it.
colechristensen 4y ago
There are very real concerns but a whole lot of people talking about them have pretty shallow knowledge and just sort of jump on anything that sounds right. This is a problem with many issues that attract activists. Lousy activists shouldn’t invalidate the issues that inspired them.
Dylan16807 4y ago
This: "Most environmentalists surely have good intentions, but they (like most people) are not experts on climate science" Invalidates this: " If it were really as dire as environmentalists would have you believe, they wouldnt be fighting this kind of stuff (or nuclear)."
Consultant32452 4y ago
With every political problem: environment, racism, failing schools, terrorists, climate change, etc. the people in power need the problem more than they need the solution.
zpeti 4y ago
Because it's not actually about saving the environment, but about slowing down or stopping human and technological progress, because human progress is basically evil. This is the fundamental driving emotion behind the environmental movement, and it's why almost any real environmentalist is against a technological solution to it. No nuclear, no wind farms (destroy landscape), no solar farms in africa. The problem is humanity. It's a virus. It needs to be killed. There are too many people on the planet, we can't feed them, children are the worst thing for the environment, I'm sure you've heard all these things. Meanwhile, 50% of 8bn people on earth will be overweight by 2030.

caf 4y ago

It's almost like "they" aren't some monolithic borg that agree on everything, isn't it.

colechristensen 4y ago

There are very real concerns but a whole lot of people talking about them have pretty shallow knowledge and just sort of jump on anything that sounds right. This is a problem with many issues that attract activists. Lousy activists shouldn’t invalidate the issues that inspired them.

Dylan16807 4y ago

This: "Most environmentalists surely have good intentions, but they (like most people) are not experts on climate science" Invalidates this: " If it were really as dire as environmentalists would have you believe, they wouldnt be fighting this kind of stuff (or nuclear)."

Consultant32452 4y ago

With every political problem: environment, racism, failing schools, terrorists, climate change, etc. the people in power need the problem more than they need the solution.

zpeti 4y ago

Because it's not actually about saving the environment, but about slowing down or stopping human and technological progress, because human progress is basically evil. This is the fundamental driving emotion behind the environmental movement, and it's why almost any real environmentalist is against a technological solution to it. No nuclear, no wind farms (destroy landscape), no solar farms in africa. The problem is humanity. It's a virus. It needs to be killed. There are too many people on the planet, we can't feed them, children are the worst thing for the environment, I'm sure you've heard all these things. Meanwhile, 50% of 8bn people on earth will be overweight by 2030.