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It is very likely the devs got into legal trouble from the original Seinfeld implementation (despite the fact it was clearly a parody) given their responses in

It is very likely the devs got into legal trouble from the original Seinfeld implementation (despite the fact it was clearly a parody) given their responses in the Discord due to the massively negative changes: https://twitter.com/minimaxir/status/1633657366767104003 https://twitter.com/minimaxir/status/1633657366767104003 Viewer count was 10k yesterday when it premiered and has been steadily dropping since.

chimineycricket 4y ago
No, the channel got banned from Twitch for making a trans joke. The clip is here https://twitter.com/watmay1/status/1622518097067511811 https://twitter.com/watmay1/status/1622518097067511811.
- neckardt 4y ago
  That was when the channel initially got banned a month ago, this article is about how it's back now. GP mentioned that the content of the stream today is very different than it used to be, likely due to legal issues.
- Supermancho 4y ago
  That is accurate. This is incidental to the changes in the format, if you've seen the new version. Instead of the characters clearly impersonating Seinfeld in the scene composition eg a man doing standup, shots of the building, internal postures, visual character similarity, music, it's a specifically changed show. I observed a random set of persistent characters making less smooth random motions and strange ML-generated insets to replace problematic scenes, and no music. The language and clarity of speech is a lot better now.
- steponlego 4y ago
  Is making trans jokes a bannable offense on Twitch or do they have a loose policy where they can just ban you for whatever like YouTube and Twitter?
heyheyhey 4y ago
I don't get why they can't talk about it. Do C&Ds come with a NDA too?
- minimaxir 4y ago
  No. Even if they did, they could have said "we're not doing a Seinfeld parody anymore" which would have gone a lot better PRwise. That's what makes how the devs are handling this baffling.
  - five82 4y ago
    They've been horrible about communication since the Twitch ban a month ago. And they didn't even reveal anything about their plans to the press leading up to last night while they were promoting their return. Just my opinion, but I wonder if the changes were their decision so they could own and monetize their "original" ip.
  - heyheyhey 4y ago
    I'm guessing officially saying it's not a Seinfeld parody due to C&D would've destroyed viewership so they do these changes without hoping anyone would notice. I watched it every now and then but with everyone saying it's completely different, I have no interest.
    - minimaxir 4y ago
      > without hoping anyone would notice The changes aren't...subtle.

chimineycricket 4y ago

No, the channel got banned from Twitch for making a trans joke. The clip is here https://twitter.com/watmay1/status/1622518097067511811 https://twitter.com/watmay1/status/1622518097067511811.

neckardt 4y ago
That was when the channel initially got banned a month ago, this article is about how it's back now. GP mentioned that the content of the stream today is very different than it used to be, likely due to legal issues.
Supermancho 4y ago
That is accurate. This is incidental to the changes in the format, if you've seen the new version. Instead of the characters clearly impersonating Seinfeld in the scene composition eg a man doing standup, shots of the building, internal postures, visual character similarity, music, it's a specifically changed show. I observed a random set of persistent characters making less smooth random motions and strange ML-generated insets to replace problematic scenes, and no music. The language and clarity of speech is a lot better now.
steponlego 4y ago
Is making trans jokes a bannable offense on Twitch or do they have a loose policy where they can just ban you for whatever like YouTube and Twitter?

heyheyhey 4y ago

I don't get why they can't talk about it. Do C&Ds come with a NDA too?

minimaxir 4y ago
No. Even if they did, they could have said "we're not doing a Seinfeld parody anymore" which would have gone a lot better PRwise. That's what makes how the devs are handling this baffling.
- five82 4y ago
  They've been horrible about communication since the Twitch ban a month ago. And they didn't even reveal anything about their plans to the press leading up to last night while they were promoting their return. Just my opinion, but I wonder if the changes were their decision so they could own and monetize their "original" ip.
- heyheyhey 4y ago
  I'm guessing officially saying it's not a Seinfeld parody due to C&D would've destroyed viewership so they do these changes without hoping anyone would notice. I watched it every now and then but with everyone saying it's completely different, I have no interest.
  - minimaxir 4y ago
    > without hoping anyone would notice The changes aren't...subtle.