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If you got a large family, SUV is the best way to go, even if it's an electric SUV. Otherwise, any bantering on moving away from stable 24/7 power generators i
by egberts1 4y ago
If you got a large family, SUV is the best way to go, even if it's an electric SUV.
Otherwise, any bantering on moving away from stable 24/7 power generators into sporadic power generators beyond the point of sustainability required by consumers/businesses is just a stupid economic crushing move.
These electric vehicles enmasse will require even more steady 24/7 electric generation due to schotastic nature of plug-in timeframe for recharging.
We should be focusing more on zero-carbon electric power generation such as hydroelectric and nuclear energy.
I am a conservative environmentalist and these are my true sustainability messages.
- xur17 4y ago> If you got a large family, SUV is the best way to go, even if it's an electric SUV. What's wrong with minivans?
- prpl 4y agoFor many SUVs there’s no real difference. A honda pilot weighs less than an Odyssey, though probably with some small amount of added drag. Usually an SUV is more likely to have AWD I bought a tiguan because I needed the occasional added seats (and it was impossible to find a Ford Transit Connect - which frankly is the only true mini van)
- vel0city 4y agoThere's two massive differences. Sliding doors and captain chairs. These two things make it way easier getting in and out of a minivan to actually use that third row of seats. I will acknowledge captain chairs can sometimes be found on SUVs, but by far the most common arrangement on SUVs are second row benches. This means accessing the third row can be challenging especially when you can't open the doors all the way.
- dagw 4y agoIf you got a large family, SUV is the way to go. Honestly, why? How is it easier to fit 6+ people (feels like reasonable definition of "large") in an SUV compared to a van? I know a few families with 5 or more kids and they all have minivans.
- egberts1 4y agoHonda Pilot SUV has better gas mileage than an Odyssey minivan and weighs less.
- malermeister 4y agoWhy not a minivan?
- CalRobert 4y agoIdeally, the way to go is to live somewhere you can walk, bike, or take public transportation for your daily needs. A bus can hold a lot of kids! Of course, that's not always practical. For those situations, how is an SUV better than a van?
- egberts1 4y agoUntil you have a large family, it would be hard to describe difficulty on about transporting mini-adults toward many places ... by walking, bicycling, or skateboarding ... unless one lives in the future 15-minute smart gulag^H^H^H^H^Hcity. Honda Pilot SUV weighs less than an Odyssey minivan and has better gas mileage.
- orwin 4y agoI mean, my father managed with 4 without issues, but maybe it's just parenting skill differences.
- egberts1 4y agoProbably more about how dense the urban area you are in. America has more spreadout suburban area than cities.
- CalRobert 4y agoGulag? Are you thinking of such hellscapes as Utrecht? Odense? Helsinki? Pontevedra? Also the Pilot seems to be marginally worse than the Odyssey https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymake/Honda2023.shtml https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymake/Honda2023.shtml
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