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nsxwolf 4y ago
Don't get caught in the middle of doing this by me or any other SUV owner.
- ndsipa_pomu 4y ago
  I have not been involved in any way with them, but it is curious how a certain section of society believes that violence is an appropriate response. Would you have a similar reaction to damaging of other property (e.g. broken fence, window) or is it specifically cars that prompt violence?
  - recursive 4y ago
    Presumably they want to discourage these activists from deflating their tires. Because they want inflated tires. And there isn't any other obvious recourse at the time.
  - nsxwolf 4y ago
    I would take a similarly dim view of anyone damaging my windows or my fence.
- malermeister 4y ago
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- CalRobert 4y ago
  What will happen?
  - nsxwolf 4y ago
    I don't know if this is serious or not. Maybe it's a Bay Area thing? People getting very used to having their windows smashed and such without any recourse? But 'round these parts, people don't just stand around watching their life and livelihood get messed with.
    - CalRobert 4y ago
      Yes, I am serious. And I live in Ireland (though I originally hail from northern California) What will you do? Are you going to assault people? Murder them? Report them to the police? Genuinely curious. I don't know what I'd do in that scenario. Probably yell at them and then get out the air compressor. Your SUV harms everyone around you, yet nobody assaults you or threatens you for it.
      - nsxwolf 4y ago
        I wouldn't murder them. I wouldn't report them to the police because they likely wouldn't even come out. The flip side to that coin is that the police also won't come out to investigate a little rough play. If I let the air out of someone's tires, I would absolutely be watching my back. I wouldn't expect a meek response. Incidentally, in most of the US, some amount of non-lethal force is allowed in the defense of real or personal property.
        dagw 4y ago
        I wouldn't murder them. I wouldn't report them to the police So what _would_ you do? Shoot them in the leg? Beat them with a baseball bat? Punch them in the face? Shove them around a bit? Shout at them and then go home and fantasize about shooting them?
        volkk 4y ago
        getting punched in the face is an appropriate response for deflating someone's tire and causing them to miss work or something. actions have consequences. by the way, even if i were the person doing activism, i would assume risk and assume that if someone caught me messing with their car, i would probably risk some sort of bodily damage. i wouldn't go into the situation with some imaginary "im doing this for us all therefore you'll understand and let me do this peacefully" type of muck
volkk 4y ago
what a silly thing that wrecks your fellow human's life (who knows what theyre using the SUV for) and accomplishes absolutely nothing.
- bluecalm 4y ago
  The argument is that SUV and truck drivers already endanger lives of unprotected traffic participants by driving those vehicles in cities. It sounds like a cause worthy of some aggressive activism to me as the regulators are deeply in car industry's pockets (no other explanation for special SUV treatment when it comes to fuel efficiency norms). You make the world a worse place by choosing your comfort over safety of others - you get some minor inconvenience to deal with sometimes. To me it's activism working as intended.
  - za3faran 4y ago
    Call it what it is, it's not "aggressive activism", it's vandalism and property destruction, and potentially cost lives if the car owner needs to go to the hospital or has another emergency. Let's not water things down please.
    - bluecalm 4y ago
      People in big cars kill thousands of pedestrians and cyclists per year. Let's not water things down please. You seem to not understand big cars in cities are really dangerous and actually cost (not hypothetical might) lives every day.
      - za3faran 4y ago
        > People in big^W cars kill thousands of pedestrians and cyclists per year FTFY. So we should ban cars? Plus, there's a difference between something literally called an accident with destruction of property.
  - Eumenes 4y ago
    >To me it's activism working as intended. To get literally everyone to hate you? People don't like their private property destroyed, esp. randomly and unprovoked. See how much support the idiots throwing soup on art are getting.
vorpalhex 4y ago
The problem with taking "direct action" is that the people you are targeting will respond in kind and often escalate. You damage their property, they light your house on fire.
- recursive 4y ago
  Maybe they'll get yelled at. I would bet against any of their houses having been burned.
  - CalRobert 4y ago
    I could imagine them getting shot.
eu_trash_lulz 4y ago
"tyre" haha. his thread is gold. you EU trash nitwits can come try that in the US. we'll beat your weak little bodies to a pulp in front of your children. violence is a perfect response to wanton destruction of personal property. sometimes you idiots need a good whoopin ;) i'll beat your ass to a bloody pulp in front of your children to teach them a real lesson about their loser daddy that doesn't respect others property. bubble boy retards out in force.
soumyadeb 4y ago
Such mindless activism is what drives away popular opinion from climate change. Lot of folks have SUVs because they have large families. Its a pain to keep a huge car in a city like NYC or London anyway so people generally have reasons. There were a wave of such tire puncture incidents in NYC which forced some people to drive 30-40 miles every week to park the car in suburb or NJ (parking in city is very expensive) The end result was more emission, more pain and less sympathy for the actual problem.

nsxwolf 4y ago

Don't get caught in the middle of doing this by me or any other SUV owner.

ndsipa_pomu 4y ago
I have not been involved in any way with them, but it is curious how a certain section of society believes that violence is an appropriate response. Would you have a similar reaction to damaging of other property (e.g. broken fence, window) or is it specifically cars that prompt violence?
- recursive 4y ago
  Presumably they want to discourage these activists from deflating their tires. Because they want inflated tires. And there isn't any other obvious recourse at the time.
- nsxwolf 4y ago
  I would take a similarly dim view of anyone damaging my windows or my fence.
malermeister 4y ago
[flagged]
CalRobert 4y ago
What will happen?
- nsxwolf 4y ago
  I don't know if this is serious or not. Maybe it's a Bay Area thing? People getting very used to having their windows smashed and such without any recourse? But 'round these parts, people don't just stand around watching their life and livelihood get messed with.
  - CalRobert 4y ago
    Yes, I am serious. And I live in Ireland (though I originally hail from northern California) What will you do? Are you going to assault people? Murder them? Report them to the police? Genuinely curious. I don't know what I'd do in that scenario. Probably yell at them and then get out the air compressor. Your SUV harms everyone around you, yet nobody assaults you or threatens you for it.
    - nsxwolf 4y ago
      I wouldn't murder them. I wouldn't report them to the police because they likely wouldn't even come out. The flip side to that coin is that the police also won't come out to investigate a little rough play. If I let the air out of someone's tires, I would absolutely be watching my back. I wouldn't expect a meek response. Incidentally, in most of the US, some amount of non-lethal force is allowed in the defense of real or personal property.
      - dagw 4y ago
        I wouldn't murder them. I wouldn't report them to the police So what _would_ you do? Shoot them in the leg? Beat them with a baseball bat? Punch them in the face? Shove them around a bit? Shout at them and then go home and fantasize about shooting them?
        volkk 4y ago
        getting punched in the face is an appropriate response for deflating someone's tire and causing them to miss work or something. actions have consequences. by the way, even if i were the person doing activism, i would assume risk and assume that if someone caught me messing with their car, i would probably risk some sort of bodily damage. i wouldn't go into the situation with some imaginary "im doing this for us all therefore you'll understand and let me do this peacefully" type of muck

volkk 4y ago

what a silly thing that wrecks your fellow human's life (who knows what theyre using the SUV for) and accomplishes absolutely nothing.

bluecalm 4y ago
The argument is that SUV and truck drivers already endanger lives of unprotected traffic participants by driving those vehicles in cities. It sounds like a cause worthy of some aggressive activism to me as the regulators are deeply in car industry's pockets (no other explanation for special SUV treatment when it comes to fuel efficiency norms). You make the world a worse place by choosing your comfort over safety of others - you get some minor inconvenience to deal with sometimes. To me it's activism working as intended.
- za3faran 4y ago
  Call it what it is, it's not "aggressive activism", it's vandalism and property destruction, and potentially cost lives if the car owner needs to go to the hospital or has another emergency. Let's not water things down please.
  - bluecalm 4y ago
    People in big cars kill thousands of pedestrians and cyclists per year. Let's not water things down please. You seem to not understand big cars in cities are really dangerous and actually cost (not hypothetical might) lives every day.
    - za3faran 4y ago
      > People in big^W cars kill thousands of pedestrians and cyclists per year FTFY. So we should ban cars? Plus, there's a difference between something literally called an accident with destruction of property.
- Eumenes 4y ago
  >To me it's activism working as intended. To get literally everyone to hate you? People don't like their private property destroyed, esp. randomly and unprovoked. See how much support the idiots throwing soup on art are getting.

vorpalhex 4y ago

The problem with taking "direct action" is that the people you are targeting will respond in kind and often escalate. You damage their property, they light your house on fire.

recursive 4y ago
Maybe they'll get yelled at. I would bet against any of their houses having been burned.
- CalRobert 4y ago
  I could imagine them getting shot.

eu_trash_lulz 4y ago

"tyre" haha. his thread is gold. you EU trash nitwits can come try that in the US. we'll beat your weak little bodies to a pulp in front of your children. violence is a perfect response to wanton destruction of personal property. sometimes you idiots need a good whoopin ;) i'll beat your ass to a bloody pulp in front of your children to teach them a real lesson about their loser daddy that doesn't respect others property. bubble boy retards out in force.

soumyadeb 4y ago

Such mindless activism is what drives away popular opinion from climate change. Lot of folks have SUVs because they have large families. Its a pain to keep a huge car in a city like NYC or London anyway so people generally have reasons. There were a wave of such tire puncture incidents in NYC which forced some people to drive 30-40 miles every week to park the car in suburb or NJ (parking in city is very expensive) The end result was more emission, more pain and less sympathy for the actual problem.