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The alignment of incentives is not as tightly aligned as I'd like. Because Kagi has this data, they could be bought out by another company and release blog post
by threatofrain 4y ago
The alignment of incentives is not as tightly aligned as I'd like. Because Kagi has this data, they could be bought out by another company and release blog posts about how this merger is actually a harmonious union of privacy. A sinking ship with the livelihoods of many families on the line can easily convince leadership to sell. Having a distressed company bought out is not some special story, and things like this easily go on without many customers knowing. How many Tom Bihn customers know that the company has been bought by a VC?
On a mildly tangential note, the way their marketing language describes their new plans leaves a poor impression with me, saying that I get something for free if I pay for it. Did you know? If you buy a Twix for $2, the first bar is free.
- soco 4y agoYour concerns are valid indeed, and on top of them one must also think about what's the alternative. Because if you leave service A you'll necessarily use service B - I assume nobody leaves Kagi to give up searching. So the choice is between a possible bad outcome (Kagi) versus a known bad outcome (Google).
- threatofrain 4y agoThe difference in privacy I see between Kagi and Google is that Kagi requires me to have a signed-in account to search, and Kagi accurately associates more valuable information with a signed-in account.
- Aeolun 4y agoI don’t think you can have both ad-free (e.g. paid) search and anonymous search at the same time. You have to pick one. And you can’t really fault Kagi for providing the one when the other is already “adequately” covered by Google.
- rofrol 4y agocryptocurrency?
- ashwagary 4y agoInteresting point. Maybe Kagi could offer a more privacy friendly "fill a wallet with crypto and we'll deduct a certain amount per search" option that doesnt require user billing data. Im not a current user but would be more likely to test it if available.
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- monort 4y agoSurely you can. You can use blind signatures, it's like issuing anonymous tokens in the style of David Chaum digital cash. Or you can just use existing cryptocurrency. Supposedly they are not doing it because of advantages of associating your payment method and searches.
- soco 4y agoI don't know how Kagi internally operates but for billing purposes I imagine it would be enough to record that you searched. Not what you searched.