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Search appears to be dead. Recent example. I've got a pine64 a64 board with an ES9023 audio "POT" daughter board that runs and boots linux using armbian fine.
by harry8 4y ago
Search appears to be dead.
Recent example. I've got a pine64 a64 board with an ES9023 audio "POT" daughter board that runs and boots linux using armbian fine. Doesn't know about the ES9023 audio DAC, spdif and i2s(?) rca output. Ok so first thing I think of is, what kernel module is the driver for it so I know if it is even available or do I need to compile a kernel.
Sure pine64 documentation is woeful unless you want to read schematics or something so it could have been there, but it isn't. This should not be a hard question to answer with a search engine.
pine64 a64 audio es9023 linux kernel driver
Try it. Watch google do the wrong thing no matter what you do. Quote. allintext: you name it. It's nuts. Google wants to show you what it wants, not what you want. That appears to be what it is. You want to find something, get stuffed. Google is no use to find things. Google is good to show you things it chooses in the general area of your interest. Ok but that is not a "search" engine. It's a recommendation system, fine if that is what you want but a flipping diaster of orwellian proportions if that recommendation engine is the best we have for search and we haven't noted it and responded.
I'm more likely to get the answer faster posting about how garbage google search his than repeatedly trying different google "tricks" just crazy.
So yeah the answer I really want is what else can we use that actually does search?
- Nition 4y agoWhat's the ideal result you'd want for that search? This is what I get: https://i.imgur.com/t0roTR2.png https://i.imgur.com/t0roTR2.png
- harry8 4y agoSo the question I want to answer is "What is the name of the kernel module that drives the es9023 daughter board on the pine64 a64" Which of those results are you recommending as the answer? edit: completely and totally prepared to accept I'm being a moron. The name of the driver, the link where you got it and how you got the link from google and I will decry it loudly here.
- chiph 4y agoI gave ChatGPT a try - it just tells you to use lsmod and modinfo
- harry8 4y agoSo google is as uselss for actual search as chatgpt nowadays...
- norvvryo 4y agoBing Chat suggests the "snd_soc_pcm5102a" and "snd_soc_hifiberry_dac" drivers in creative mode, "snd_soc_es9023" in balanced, and failed to return results in precise. I doubt that's accurate. I tried using Startpage and DDG to see if I could do any better. I mostly found people complaining that their ES9023 POT wasn't working. PINE64's forum search returned a few topics with half-answers. Apparently a distro called "Volumio" works? There's a report of someone having success after modifying asound.conf on Debian Stretch. This leads me to believe that there's not much useful information about the POT, or that it's being posted somewhere that doesn't get indexed.
- Nition 4y agoYou're not being stupid, I couldn't find that either. Although I do notice you wrote 9203 instead of 9023 in your suggested search. I get slightly more 9023-specific results with 9023 there: https://i.imgur.com/V5ty2In.png https://i.imgur.com/V5ty2In.png I do think maybe you're expecting a little too much of any search engine for such an obscure query.
- harry8 4y agoTypo fixed. That's not obscure imho. What kernel driver do I use for this hardware is /exactly/ the kind of search google built its reputation on back in the old days when they did search. The shock for me is I really /expect/ that to be easy becuase so very many similar searches have been, using google search, before. I've noticed it getting steadily worse along these lines in ways it really did not used to be. I've noticed it being because it wants to recommend not search. Seems others are noticing the same. What alternative strategies do we have for search where we used to rely on google and now cannot?