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> The report identifies at “least a half dozen” active gangs and cliques — and names them: the Executioners, the Banditos, the Regulators, the Spartans, the Gla
by kodah 4y ago
> The report identifies at “least a half dozen” active gangs and cliques — and names them: the Executioners, the Banditos, the Regulators, the Spartans, the Gladiators, the Cowboys, and the Reapers.
This list isn't exhaustive but many of these are civilian gangs, so it's probably a case of both.
- aerostable_slug 4y agoThe law enforcement Banditos are not affiliated with the outlaw-motorcycle-centric gang of the same name. A Sheriff's "Bandito" might earn his ink by shooting a 1% "Bandito". There are of course corrupt members of law enforcement who collaborate with organized crime for various nefarious purposes, but the in-department gangs are a distinct issue.
- sli 4y agoI know what you're saying, but it needs to be stated that police are also civilians.
- the_lonely_road 4y agoI googled civilian and the dictionary response Google presented disagrees with you. I don't have an opinion on the topic just pointing it out.
- kodah 4y agohttps://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civilian https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civilian It specifically mentions armed services, police, and firefighters are not civilians.
- true_religion 4y agoI’m more surprised that firefighters aren’t civilians, but EMTs are. Its not a blanket definition for all emergency services.
- whythre 4y agoBizarrely, we Americans treat our EMTs worse than other first responders. They are trained to a lower standard and paid less but still have demanding hours and lots of stress.
- nradov 4y agoThat dictionary definition is simply factually and legally wrong. US law is very clear about who is and is not a civilian. Anyone acting as a sheriff's deputy is 100% a civilian. If you're not subject to the UCMJ then you're a civilian. (Some deputies are also military Reserve or National Guard members, but when activated they are no longer acting as civilian peace officers.)
- kodah 4y agoYour definition is correct under international law, but that definition mainly aims to serve policies governing war, so it's not especially apt here. Civilian in law enforcement jargon means a non-sworn position: https://www.discoverpolicing.org/explore-the-field/civilian-law-enforcement/ https://www.discoverpolicing.org/explore-the-field/civilian-... To make this more interesting, Posse Comitatus employs the language to signal "non-Federal forces" eg: National Guard activated by a state to operate domestically are referred to as "civilian law enforcement". In any of the above cases, calling LEOs civilians would be incorrect and would eschew them of many of their responsibilities.