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> but it is possible for a accomplished individual to join a company and then lose motivation and not do much Nobody deserves to be fired without communication

> but it is possible for a accomplished individual to join a company and then lose motivation and not do much Nobody deserves to be fired without communication, without HR being able to confirm if they work at the company, and then proceed to be publicly mocked on Twitter for their physical disability. Speculating about the person's work at Twitter is beside the point. Thousands of Twitter employees have been let go, but mocking someone for their physical disability on the internet is something else entirely. The perspective warp that happens in these comment threads is baffling. If someone posted the same scenario (getting fired without communication, then their CEO mocked their disability on Twitter) as an "Ask HN" thread, everyone would have their pitchforks out. Replace unknown CEO with Elon Musk, and suddenly commenters are doing mental gymnastics to ignore the real bad behavior and try to justify something else using speculation.

jonahx 4y ago
> and then proceed to be publicly mocked on Twitter for their physical disability Today is my first time hearing about this scandal. Do you have a link to the mocking in question?
- buggy6257 4y ago
  https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633011448459964417 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633011448459964417 He also had a (now deleted) comment where he called the guy "just the worst": https://twitter.com/JamesClayton5/status/1633155915892527104 https://twitter.com/JamesClayton5/status/1633155915892527104
  - nonethewiser 4y ago
    What part constitutes mocking his disability?
    - fabian2k 4y ago
      Calling the disability "an excuse" for someone with muscular dystrophy that sits in a wheel chair could arguably meet that description.
      - nemo44x 4y ago
        I think you are mischaracterizing it. He said the guys says his disability prevents him from typing even though he tweets all day. Not saying Musk is correct here, but he didn't say what you are implying.
        finikytou 4y ago
        we all know you are right. even the people that will tell you the contrary. and we all know that if it was Biden saying that rather than Elon that will be on page 10 of google search and in 0 newspaper . this is how it works now. once you are filed as bad by the media there's no way back.
      - 93po 4y ago
        How does reconcile that against Halli clearly tweeting a lot? If he can type to tweet, surely he can type to work? And if he can't type to work, and his job requires typing, why would he stayed employed? I know someone who can literally only move her eyes and her neck a little, and she still manages to use software to type.
  - mindslight 4y ago
    "The reality is that this guy (who is independently wealthy) did no actual work, claimed as his excuse that he had a disability that prevented him from typing, yet was simultaneously tweeting up a storm. Can’t say I have a lot of respect for that." This is rich coming from the dude that got so addicted to Twitter he bought the entire company. It looks like we're in the "there's always a tweet" period of Elmo's implosion.
- Avshalom 4y ago
  > Today is my first time hearing about this scandal. Yeah, it happened today.
- romanhn 4y ago
  Here's some background: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64871183.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64871183.amp
capableweb 4y ago
Nope, I'm not trying to justify anything and trying to reduce the speculation rather than add to it. I said that we don't know anything about the situation besides what happened publicly, which I also said I didn't like. You're putting a lot of words towards me that are not justifiable as I'm agreeing with most of what you're saying. The only thing I was saying is that we don't know if he was a productive employee of Twitter or not. Besides that, absolutely horrible how he was treated, productive employee or not. But that doesn't remove the fact that we don't know what happen behind the scenes.

jonahx 4y ago

> and then proceed to be publicly mocked on Twitter for their physical disability Today is my first time hearing about this scandal. Do you have a link to the mocking in question?

buggy6257 4y ago
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633011448459964417 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633011448459964417 He also had a (now deleted) comment where he called the guy "just the worst": https://twitter.com/JamesClayton5/status/1633155915892527104 https://twitter.com/JamesClayton5/status/1633155915892527104
- nonethewiser 4y ago
  What part constitutes mocking his disability?
  - fabian2k 4y ago
    Calling the disability "an excuse" for someone with muscular dystrophy that sits in a wheel chair could arguably meet that description.
    - nemo44x 4y ago
      I think you are mischaracterizing it. He said the guys says his disability prevents him from typing even though he tweets all day. Not saying Musk is correct here, but he didn't say what you are implying.
      - finikytou 4y ago
        we all know you are right. even the people that will tell you the contrary. and we all know that if it was Biden saying that rather than Elon that will be on page 10 of google search and in 0 newspaper . this is how it works now. once you are filed as bad by the media there's no way back.
    - 93po 4y ago
      How does reconcile that against Halli clearly tweeting a lot? If he can type to tweet, surely he can type to work? And if he can't type to work, and his job requires typing, why would he stayed employed? I know someone who can literally only move her eyes and her neck a little, and she still manages to use software to type.
- mindslight 4y ago
  "The reality is that this guy (who is independently wealthy) did no actual work, claimed as his excuse that he had a disability that prevented him from typing, yet was simultaneously tweeting up a storm. Can’t say I have a lot of respect for that." This is rich coming from the dude that got so addicted to Twitter he bought the entire company. It looks like we're in the "there's always a tweet" period of Elmo's implosion.
Avshalom 4y ago
> Today is my first time hearing about this scandal. Yeah, it happened today.
romanhn 4y ago
Here's some background: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64871183.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64871183.amp

capableweb 4y ago

Nope, I'm not trying to justify anything and trying to reduce the speculation rather than add to it. I said that we don't know anything about the situation besides what happened publicly, which I also said I didn't like. You're putting a lot of words towards me that are not justifiable as I'm agreeing with most of what you're saying. The only thing I was saying is that we don't know if he was a productive employee of Twitter or not. Besides that, absolutely horrible how he was treated, productive employee or not. But that doesn't remove the fact that we don't know what happen behind the scenes.