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>The lesson I've learned from his Twitter acquisition[...]and (2) he is sometimes willing to use that influence in ways that cause harm to his customers and the
by xoa 4y ago
>The lesson I've learned from his Twitter acquisition[...]and (2) he is sometimes willing to use that influence in ways that cause harm to his customers and the business (even to his own wealth), even in cases where his actions violate explicit contractual promises[...]
This is kind of an odd lesson for you to take honestly. Everything he has done with Twitter has not merely been completely legal, but in fact has underlined how Musk couldn't get out of law and contract. He made a very, very bad buy, and Twitter's owners were happy to take it and made out like bandits. He tried desperately to get out of it, and despite effectively unlimited funds for legal representation, he could not. He failed to take precautions upfront, made a deal, and he was held to it. After that Twitter became private (though since he financed the purchase in part vs buying with purely his own wealth there are still some other players involved). He has since tried to blow off various other contracts and such, and there is no sign he'll get away with that either. It's just that it takes time for the legal process to take out and it's only been months. Twitter is also in a vastly less regulated space then vehicles.
I think there are reasonable reasons to be concerned about Tesla, but
>but at any point he might decide to illegally void all warranties or triple the price of supercharging just for fun
this isn't one of them in the slightest.
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- matthewdgreen 4y ago> but in fact has underlined how Musk couldn't get out of law and contract. I have friends who worked at Twitter and were owed (and additionally, were promised by Twitter and Musk, in writing) both severance and RSU payouts. Musk has decided not to make these payments, so they are forced to sue/arbitrate for them. Similarly, Musk has decided not to pay AWS for services that AWS is contractually obligated to provide. As a car owner, I'm confident that if Musk decided to break my warranty agreement I might eventually receive (some) compensation from the courts. Could his lawyers drag the process out by 2-3 years while my car remains broken? Absolutely. The only real protection I have against this is not to do any further business with Musk's companies, and I intend to do that. My biggest concern is not warranties being broken: it is stuff like "Tesla issues a software update that disables core features of the car", which actually happened to my radar.
- ncr100 4y agoSorry about your friends being abused by what turns out to be a malicious employer. That stress ripples. Good luck to them in finding a healthier work environment. I always felt like the marketing around self-driving Tesla's was misleading. They named it misleadingly, ambitiously but misleadingly. So I feel Musk has broken the integrity of the feature since its inception and roll out. Bizarre about the radar, that sounds like an actual safety problem. Seeing how he makes guinea pigs out of everyone, to me suggests he'll do anything to get to Mars.
- danaris 4y ago> Everything he has done with Twitter has not merely been completely legal > He has since tried to blow off various other contracts and such, and there is no sign he'll get away with that either You're certainly allowed to contain multitudes, but these seem to contradict each other? Also, he's done a bunch of things at Twitter that are most definitely not legal, like attempting to fire/lay off people without proper notice in several different ways and jurisdictions.