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If you're wondering why this is on the front page now, it's because of these exchanges with Elon Musk which went viral on Twitter https://twitter.com/iamharaldu

If you're wondering why this is on the front page now, it's because of these exchanges with Elon Musk which went viral on Twitter https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1633082707835080705?t=rkk0LHCuBvlsFy4SzA5CkA&s=19 https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1633082707835080705?t...

tonetheman 4y ago
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bakhy 4y ago
The same site has an article about all this from today: https://www.icelandreview.com/business/elon-musk-and-halli-spar-over-termination-at-twitter/ https://www.icelandreview.com/business/elon-musk-and-halli-s...
hgsgm 4y ago
> I'm typing this on my phone btw. It's easier for because I only need to use one finger. I wonder if he also has voclaization difficulties that interfere with voice typing, and/or if he was socialized against "talking to himself" like I was. (Or if Twitter has the same problem as HN+Android+Firefox+? where the keyboard microphone and swipe goes inexplicably missing sometimes, like now for me.)
rideontime 4y ago
Elon never misses an opportunity to humiliate one of his subordinates. It’s a pretty consistent pattern since he took over twitter.
- hgsgm 4y ago
  It's incredible. It's quite possible that an acquisition CEO might no longer be needed at the company 2 years later, and that his deteriorating health might interfere with productivity. But holy moly the horrific way Elon/NewTwitter went about the whole thing. Question: if every US citizen/permanent resident refuses to work for Twitter because of how horrific it is and the pay isn't worth it, is that sufficient basis to get approval to hire H1Bs with lower standards?
  - danso 4y ago
    Halli wasn’t trying to argue that he shouldn’t have been fired. He was asking if he had been fired at all because HR people weren’t getting back to him on this very basic question.
- rsynnott 4y ago
  Well, to attempt it, in any event. In this particular exchange, Musk is fairly clearly the one humiliated.
bmitc 4y ago
How does an employee, much less a CEO, get away with openly mocking another employee's disability?
- hgsgm 4y ago
  When you have ~$200B you can afford to lose $40B destroying on a social chat app, and a few $B in goodwill/consumer sentiment for your other holdings.
  - lokar 4y ago
    Consider he is instead gaining new fans and goodwill from the right.
  - ncallaway 4y ago
    The cost of the Twitter acquisition to much will have been much more than $40B. Since he had to liquidate stock to make the purchase happen, you don’t get face value for the sells and the lowered stock price is then reflected in the rest of his net worth. I’d be surprised if the hit to his net worth from the purchase as less than $80B
    - donkeyd 4y ago
      It's all just numbers at that point though, the actual money means nothing. He gets to be in the public eye and news all the time. Gets to be defended by fanboys while making fun of disabled people and laughing at design people who work with Figma. He gets to delist anyone he dislikes. This role gives him power and attention on a global scale. Seems like a great investment of $80B if that floats his boat, which it seems to.
    - runarberg 4y ago
      80 billion USD is still a ridiculous amount wealth, which puts him in the top 20 richest persons in the world. For all intents and purposes there is no difference in 80 billion USD and 800 billion USD. You are still more rich and more powerful than many nation states. The fact that you can blunder this horrendously, and loose this much money, and still keep all your wealth and power is proof of you parent’s point.
ncallaway 4y ago
I… wow. I don’t know why I continue to be surprised by it at this point, but Musk’s behavior is just so disgusting and appalling. I’m just genuinely stunned that anyone would behave this way. I used to be such a big fan of the accomplishments of SpaceX (I still remember where I was when they successfully stuck the landing of the Falcon 9). Elon’s behavior just… gives it all such a sour note. It’s impossible for me to be an unabashed cheerleader for SpaceX anymore. I will certainly never be giving any of his companies a penny of my money, though.
- sdfghswe 4y ago
  Remember when Elon Musk, someone with like 50m followers at the time, called a random guy on the internet a pedo?
  - xtorol 4y ago
    A guy who was at that very moment working at considerable personal risk to save the lives of 13 people.
  - raphaelj 4y ago
    You're wrong. Guy wasn't random, he critically put his life on the line to save 13 teenagers.
  - addisonl 4y ago
    That was the day I lost every ounce of respect I had for Musk, showed his true colors that day.
    - sdfghswe 4y ago
      Exactly the same as me. Up until then I could've built stories to defend him. He's shit to his employees buuuuuuut he built successful companies, so maybe the two are connected? But the pedo story was indefensible. There's no explanation other than his bad character.
    - jjeaff 4y ago
lokar 4y ago
Not on the front page any more, flagged
- tonetheman 4y ago
  Why did this get flagged?
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - lokar 4y ago
    I have no idea. Musk fans?
  - dang 4y ago
    Users flagged it. We can only guess why users flag things, but in this case the reason should be obvious to anyone who's familiarized themselves with the intended spirit of this site: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. More here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35060935 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35060935.

tonetheman 4y ago

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bakhy 4y ago

The same site has an article about all this from today: https://www.icelandreview.com/business/elon-musk-and-halli-spar-over-termination-at-twitter/ https://www.icelandreview.com/business/elon-musk-and-halli-s...

hgsgm 4y ago

> I'm typing this on my phone btw. It's easier for because I only need to use one finger. I wonder if he also has voclaization difficulties that interfere with voice typing, and/or if he was socialized against "talking to himself" like I was. (Or if Twitter has the same problem as HN+Android+Firefox+? where the keyboard microphone and swipe goes inexplicably missing sometimes, like now for me.)

rideontime 4y ago

Elon never misses an opportunity to humiliate one of his subordinates. It’s a pretty consistent pattern since he took over twitter.

hgsgm 4y ago
It's incredible. It's quite possible that an acquisition CEO might no longer be needed at the company 2 years later, and that his deteriorating health might interfere with productivity. But holy moly the horrific way Elon/NewTwitter went about the whole thing. Question: if every US citizen/permanent resident refuses to work for Twitter because of how horrific it is and the pay isn't worth it, is that sufficient basis to get approval to hire H1Bs with lower standards?
- danso 4y ago
  Halli wasn’t trying to argue that he shouldn’t have been fired. He was asking if he had been fired at all because HR people weren’t getting back to him on this very basic question.
rsynnott 4y ago
Well, to attempt it, in any event. In this particular exchange, Musk is fairly clearly the one humiliated.

bmitc 4y ago

How does an employee, much less a CEO, get away with openly mocking another employee's disability?

hgsgm 4y ago
When you have ~$200B you can afford to lose $40B destroying on a social chat app, and a few $B in goodwill/consumer sentiment for your other holdings.
- lokar 4y ago
  Consider he is instead gaining new fans and goodwill from the right.
- ncallaway 4y ago
  The cost of the Twitter acquisition to much will have been much more than $40B. Since he had to liquidate stock to make the purchase happen, you don’t get face value for the sells and the lowered stock price is then reflected in the rest of his net worth. I’d be surprised if the hit to his net worth from the purchase as less than $80B
  - donkeyd 4y ago
    It's all just numbers at that point though, the actual money means nothing. He gets to be in the public eye and news all the time. Gets to be defended by fanboys while making fun of disabled people and laughing at design people who work with Figma. He gets to delist anyone he dislikes. This role gives him power and attention on a global scale. Seems like a great investment of $80B if that floats his boat, which it seems to.
  - runarberg 4y ago
    80 billion USD is still a ridiculous amount wealth, which puts him in the top 20 richest persons in the world. For all intents and purposes there is no difference in 80 billion USD and 800 billion USD. You are still more rich and more powerful than many nation states. The fact that you can blunder this horrendously, and loose this much money, and still keep all your wealth and power is proof of you parent’s point.

ncallaway 4y ago

I… wow. I don’t know why I continue to be surprised by it at this point, but Musk’s behavior is just so disgusting and appalling. I’m just genuinely stunned that anyone would behave this way. I used to be such a big fan of the accomplishments of SpaceX (I still remember where I was when they successfully stuck the landing of the Falcon 9). Elon’s behavior just… gives it all such a sour note. It’s impossible for me to be an unabashed cheerleader for SpaceX anymore. I will certainly never be giving any of his companies a penny of my money, though.

sdfghswe 4y ago
Remember when Elon Musk, someone with like 50m followers at the time, called a random guy on the internet a pedo?
- xtorol 4y ago
  A guy who was at that very moment working at considerable personal risk to save the lives of 13 people.
- raphaelj 4y ago
  You're wrong. Guy wasn't random, he critically put his life on the line to save 13 teenagers.
- addisonl 4y ago
  That was the day I lost every ounce of respect I had for Musk, showed his true colors that day.
  - sdfghswe 4y ago
    Exactly the same as me. Up until then I could've built stories to defend him. He's shit to his employees buuuuuuut he built successful companies, so maybe the two are connected? But the pedo story was indefensible. There's no explanation other than his bad character.
  - jjeaff 4y ago

lokar 4y ago

Not on the front page any more, flagged

tonetheman 4y ago
Why did this get flagged?
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- lokar 4y ago
  I have no idea. Musk fans?
- dang 4y ago
  Users flagged it. We can only guess why users flag things, but in this case the reason should be obvious to anyone who's familiarized themselves with the intended spirit of this site: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. More here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35060935 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35060935.