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You need to rinse off what you put in if there is a lot of stuff on it, not because it will not be cleaned (it probably will) but because you don't want to have

You need to rinse off what you put in if there is a lot of stuff on it, not because it will not be cleaned (it probably will) but because you don't want to have to clean that out of the machine at the end of the night. What does it mean for the gut barrier to be destroyed? I've worked in such kitchens in the past and there wasn't any material change in how I digest food or how sick I get, so I would suspect it's not as terrible as it sounds.

MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
Well I guess if you're not affected it can't be an issue, can it. Also those asians should simply try milk. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091674922014774 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S009167492...
- krageon 4y ago
  This isn't very nuanced at all - my only point was that it's not as absolute as it sounds when someone says "eating off these plates destroys your gut lining", not that there was nothing to be found at all.
- pflanze 4y ago
  Discussion and link to the full text: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33822149 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33822149
krisoft 4y ago
> I've worked in such kitchens in the past and there wasn't any material change in how I digest food or how sick I get, so I would suspect it's not as terrible as it sounds. MrBuddyCasino has linked the paper in a comment next to mine. I don't know enough to decide the credibility of the science itself, but that is the one people are referring to. The only thing I want to add is that it is not a danger for people working with the machine, but for the people eating from the plates cleaned by such machine. And in addition the concern is that the chemical used by the commercial machines cause chronic issues in some people after repeated exposure. Clearly if everyone who eats at a commercial kitchen would get immediately sick that would be very easy to detect. You don't need scientist to tell you that. So instead of thinking in black and white think in probabilities. The proposed mechanism is that some people (who were either pre-disposed genetically, or got a larger amount of the chemicals for some reason, or both) gets sick after a longer amount of time. > What does it mean for the gut barrier to be destroyed? Chronic inflamation disease.
- krageon 4y ago
  I did eat there every evening that I worked there. I apologise, I was not clear.

MrBuddyCasino 4y ago

Well I guess if you're not affected it can't be an issue, can it. Also those asians should simply try milk. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091674922014774 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S009167492...

krageon 4y ago
This isn't very nuanced at all - my only point was that it's not as absolute as it sounds when someone says "eating off these plates destroys your gut lining", not that there was nothing to be found at all.
pflanze 4y ago
Discussion and link to the full text: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33822149 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33822149

krisoft 4y ago

> I've worked in such kitchens in the past and there wasn't any material change in how I digest food or how sick I get, so I would suspect it's not as terrible as it sounds. MrBuddyCasino has linked the paper in a comment next to mine. I don't know enough to decide the credibility of the science itself, but that is the one people are referring to. The only thing I want to add is that it is not a danger for people working with the machine, but for the people eating from the plates cleaned by such machine. And in addition the concern is that the chemical used by the commercial machines cause chronic issues in some people after repeated exposure. Clearly if everyone who eats at a commercial kitchen would get immediately sick that would be very easy to detect. You don't need scientist to tell you that. So instead of thinking in black and white think in probabilities. The proposed mechanism is that some people (who were either pre-disposed genetically, or got a larger amount of the chemicals for some reason, or both) gets sick after a longer amount of time. > What does it mean for the gut barrier to be destroyed? Chronic inflamation disease.

krageon 4y ago
I did eat there every evening that I worked there. I apologise, I was not clear.