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I Launched My Startup Yesterday, This Is How The Hectic Day Went
- rtrocc 15y agoVery inspiring. Thanks for sharing, and congratulations! You seem to have done everything right. Now continue putting the same type of effort and don't let it crumble.
- james-fend 15y agoThank you!
- andrewcamel 15y agoWould you consider posting weekly updates? I would really like to read them and I'm sure they'd contribute some traffic to new site.
- james-fend 15y agoYeah definitely. If you want to, you can choose to subscribe on the right and it should auto-email you with each new post.
- rplnt 15y agoPlease, lose the page-blocking pop-up. It's one of the worst web practices and I wouldn't even bothered reading the article if it weren't so praised in the comments. It's always easier to close a page than close the pop-up.
- james-fend 15y agoTurned off. You're the 2nd person to suggest that. Thanks.
- kami8845 15y agoYou may not want to turn it off. From an advertising perspective I would suggest you split-test it. Yeah it will annoy some people, but entry-pops have great effect and are used by most performance marketers whenever possible.
- instakill 15y agoAre you considering adding any other payments types? Not a fan of paypal.
- james-fend 15y agoEither am I. That's why the app uses Stripe to process our own payments. What others do you suggest to add?
- hadriagh 15y agoDwolla might be a good alternative
- james-fend 15y agoHow could I forget?!
- instakill 15y agoAnything that my Mastercard would accept that isn't Paypal, really.
- bond 15y agoCongrats for launching! I remember from thefastlaneforum.com you were developing Fendza, what happened to that project?
- james-fend 15y agoHey man! Thanks! Errr.. long story. I kind of broke it down on there with this thread: http://www.thefastlaneforum.com/progress-threads/32190-progress-thread-james-f-startup-2-a.html http://www.thefastlaneforum.com/progress-threads/32190-progr...
- bond 15y agoGlad you didn't gave up. Best of luck with this one.
- jeffpalmer 15y agoThanks for sharing your launch story! Would you be willing to share the stats on the 310 emails you collected over the past 7 months? I would be interested in seeing the open & bounce rates specifically.
- james-fend 15y agoShoot me an email james@freelancify.com.
- equilibrium 15y agoWell done on launching! Under how it works I'd suggest numbering the steps.
- james-fend 15y agoGreat suggestion! Will do today..
- hadriagh 15y agoI think one of the big take-aways for me was do more substantial testing before pulling all the tricks out of your hat to get traffic. Imagine if his email list had been 10,000 people, how many would have been turned off by that first impression?
- james-fend 15y agoYes, true. The urge to get user validation was too much.. besides, I can always email the list again in a few weeks to let them know of fixes and enhancements. Like a 'we listened to you and here's what we did... ' email
- ssmoot 15y agoAlso, get some sleep before launching. :-)
- outside1234 15y agocongrats - what are you trying to learn with your first launch?
- billpatrianakos 15y agoOh, good question! Hopefully we get an answer. As someone planning to launch this year I'm eager to learn from someone doing it now.
- radagaisus 15y agoAre those considered good numbers? Feedback: - the search button isn't aligned properly - why everyone have 5 stars? and why are the stars gray? they look sad. - clicking on the category name should check its box - why can't I click on the top categories on the main page?
- james-fend 15y agothanks for the list.. getting small quirks like this fixed is my goal for this week.
- jcc80 15y agoCongrats - looks great and learning Ruby well enough in 8 weeks to build this is inspiring. Another reminder that there is no excuse to not learn myself. Good luck.
- bdg 15y agoHere's some feedback, take with it what you will. I like that you're starting yet another freelancer site, simply because I hate the other ones. They're full of often sub-quality contractors spamming the boards hoping to hit one and take some money. The other bids are from nations where the exchange rate makes my yearly salary make me look like a king. I take what I do seriously, I like serious clients, and I've find next to no success on these freelance sites (I may have found a few projects where I could make $100/h, but the volume of those jobs is small). I have no way to sell my skills on these sites. I'm not saying I have the answer, I'm simply explaining why I hate the other freelance sites. Looking over your site, the first thing that jumps out at me is "City, State". I am from Canada, where we have provinces. Are you an international site? Your registration form could do with a bit of tweaking, I make mental jumps between "Persona", "Security" and "Location" a number of times. OAuth would have been nice. The profile setup drop-downs are not obvious what they do until I interact like them, I feel like it is missing the down-arrow to the right. Nice-to-have if the category drop-downs didn't allow me to reproduce things, or I could leave one empty, add more, etc. Next is who I've seen already-- Someone wants a full website for about $300, that's a critical issue with other sites. There's no real negotiation going on, the customer feels like they only need to spend $200, which, even for someone charging $25/hour means "do it an a day." Something like the sports site isn't scoped out as a massive endeavor, but it's bigger than the asking price. Yet out the other door, someone is asking for someone to scrape an XML feed for emails every hour for $500. Again, I'm not sure how to deal with these things, but these are reasons I'm not a fan of these sites. The "More" position on the job posting makes me think that there is more text in the description simply because "more" at the end of a paragraph everywhere else on the internet means that. (more) Your next challenge would be getting heavy traffic. I recently started blogging and my traffic looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/WuPOC.png http://i.imgur.com/WuPOC.png . Some articles I posted to reddit's programming, some I posted here, and I really learnt that I'm dealing with different audiences, reddit was more interested in my walk through of a project-euler solution, hacker-news was more interested in something on self-improvement. Most of my articles haven't hit the right-spot the first few had that brought me lots of traffic, this is three-fold. First, I'm not posting them in the right places, most people who are programming simply don't care about a number of hand-wavy concept things I talk about (but a good number of people do, just not the /r/programming or HN crowd). The second factor for my drop in traffic is I simply did not put the extra effort, that final 10% into my posts that I did with my first few. My big-traffic posts I had easily put through three or four drafts, let them sit for a week or two while I reflected on them, I just put more work into them, covered more corners. The last factor was my website usability, which was totally awful and I'm attempting to hack blogger templates to fix a number of things that many of my readers are pained by. What I'd apply to you from what I learnt was that you need to find the right place to sell this, I'm thrilled to see you've launched but you need to put your product in front of people with a sales-pitch that brings them in. You need lots of people who want feelancers, and you need slightly less freelancers. If I knew the best places to target those people, I'd tell you. However, I'm sure if you did find the right place, 400~ hits would seem like an anthill.
- joshcrews 15y agoI was James's Rails mentor and I can testify that he definitely did not know Ruby on Rails at the beginning of November, but he is sharp.
- smadam9 15y agoAlthough I can program already, I'm sure most people would agree that James's idea of putting a post on his learning experience of Ruby would be an interesting read.
- james-fend 15y agoThat blog post will definitely be next!
- gamechangr 15y agoI agree. I'm trying to learn RoR right now. Seems fast for 8 weeks!
- james-fend 15y agothanks Josh!! it was the hardest/easiest thing I've ever learned to do..
- cidermonk3y 15y agoGood job man, had a brief look around, looks swish. Hope to have a more in depth look a bit later on. One thing i did notice in your signup form for workers, i hit enter accidentally before filling out 1 field. This caused an error and i lost all the information i had previously entered. Barring password and perhaps username do you think that the form should reload the information if an error has occured? Something to consider perhaps when you have the time :P
- james-fend 15y agoThanks.. yep, fixing that is on the list
- user24 15y agowell done on launching, If you've not launched anything before, be warned that your traffic is going to drop like a stone now. What are your plans to keep the traffic going?
- james-fend 15y agowork my ass. get creative. then repeat.
- caublestone 15y ago"12:30AM - I go to have a celebration lunch for finally launching. And I get absolutely stuffed! Hmm… lunch special fajitas" You time traveled!? I do the same after a lack of sleep. :)
- james-fend 15y agolmao.. fixed.
- driverdan 15y agoCongrats on the launch but to me it appears to be just another elance. What makes you different? As a freelancer who charges a lot more than $10/h and isn't interested in $200 projects why should I join?
- james-fend 15y agoThe ability to tell the person who posted the project that their project will be a piece of crap if they try to get something done for that much and why.
- james-fend 15y agoAlso, those spray and pray 'generic' bids that many companies on Elance and oDesk can't get away with that. So they actually have to display some sort brain power and ability to the project poster. The ability for the project poster not be embarded by 40-50 bids all at the same time and not having a clue about their work ethic/communication/etc. and going purely off of reviews and botched portfolios.
- sequoia 15y agoI'm Xposting this from his blog... don't think it will make it past moderation: Looks intriguing but be very careful with your credibility; a freelancing site that’s considered untrustworthy is a failed freelancing site. I say this because I saw your post about “Launched yesterday” then on your site I see the testimonial “Freelancify helped us find a great designer to get our blog launched. -GrowNasheville” Wait- the site launched yesterday and someone has already taken a transaction from idea to proposal to bidding to work to review to launch & payment? huh? That doesn’t exactly add up… maybe there was a private beta launch with a few dozen vendors and a couple clients…? Who is this “GrowNasheville”, anyway? GrowNasheville.com/blog/about : “GrowNashville was created and organized by James Fend [the founder of freelancify.com]…” ahh… I see. You will have testimonials soon enough, I’m sure; having them now is not worth risking your credibility. [EDIT: At the risk of stating the obvious: you can't write your own testimonials.] Good luck!
- AznHisoka 15y agoAlso, I dunno if it helps to say you've just launched yesterday. I rather try to pretend that I'm old and established by putting (C) 2008-2012 or something in the footer.
- gravitronic 15y agoBlatant lies are not the way to appear trustworthy.
- sequoia 15y agomy footer: Copyright MCMXLVIII - MMXII Sequoia
- james-fend 15y agoHey sequoia, Yes, that does need to come down. That image was actually a leftover from the original 1-page splash landing site that runs running since June until yesterday. Never thought twice to take it out as my eyes literally skip over it when scanning that page.
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- sidcool 15y agoHeartiest congratulations for launching. I have signed up as I like to do some freelance work. Good luck!
- nsxwolf 15y agoInspired by some of the things bdg said, I'm thinking, could you find a niche a service that allows only US-only freelancers? There's got to be a market for people who are willing to pay more simply to not have to deal with overseas developers.
- fourmii 15y agoWell done James! Congrats on the launch and sharing your story. Nothing like these posts to inspire!
- james-fend 15y agothanks!
- jmilloy 15y agoI don't think I get it; I've never launched a site, so maybe that's why. I'm going to be critical and skeptical about this particular post, but that doesn't mean that I don't think it's laudable, stressful, and exciting to launch a product by yourself (and I'm glad you are getting front page press here) Why would James launch at 5:30 AM after getting no sleep? This sounds like a good way to make mistakes, make it hard to keep up with issues that come up, and generally make the day seem hectic when it maybe didn't need to be (and in fact wasn't). Was there a mission critical launch deadline? Were there key users to be gained at 5:30 AM? Instead, he took a three hour nap during business hours, with emails and bugs accruing that needed "immediate attention". In fact, it doesn't sound like a very hectic day to me at all. A three hour nap in the middle of the day? An hour long victory lunch? Those sounds like the wonderful rewards of having a flexible (read: no) schedule. James worked hard leading up to the launch day, for sure. But on launch day, he spent one to two hours writing two emails, and one hour fixing a certificate bug. 3 hours. The rest was spent refreshing logs and being excited. Fun! Not hectic. Aptly, "THE DAY'S RESULTS" is a large, prominent chart with... one data point. What am I supposed to be interested in here?
- makira 15y agoWhenever I push a new version of an app, I always do it in the morning after having slept a good night. It's very important to be alert and able to react in case something goes very wrong. Launching after being up 20 hours is taking risks for no reason.
- james-fend 15y agoLive and learn. I prob won't make that mistake again as I just woke up from a crash nap and trying to catch up on blog comments..
- ilaksh 15y agoIts really great that so many people signed up listing actual US rates. On the other hand, almost all of the projects are $500 or less, most of them $300 or less. Which are outsourcing budgets, and pretty much incompatible with the US rates for most projects. I wonder what you could do to get U.S. organizations with actual project budgets to use these types of sites. I have always wished there was something like a US-only freelancer's site. Maybe this person could create a section where only US freelancers could bid, or a section that had a minimum rate at $40 or something. I really like odesk because I am used to being poor and I always know I can find a spec to prototype and get a job without having to leave my house or network or anything, but I can't afford healthcare or my own apartment. I had a few "real" gigs with a good US rate but I spent too much time working on my startup and ran out of money, sort of panicked and picked up a job at an outsourcing rate, and now I feel like I should to move to Bangalore in order to maintain my standard of living.
- grocerocity 15y agoAs someone looking to learn to code from scratch and build a Web/smartphone app, I'm curious what your coding background was before your 8 week ruby cram session began?
- james-fend 15y agogreat question. I was a web designer working with only html/css. I had no clue what an MVC was before I got told the best route is to learn Rails by Josh. I'll definitely be making a blog post about the learning Rails aspect as it was requested alot today. If you want, I'd suggest to subscribe that way it'll email you when that post is created.
- cjw 15y agoI'm curious about what kind of setup you have running the site.
- dools 15y agoCan you please put a note in your calendar to do a new post on January 25, 2013 "I Launched my Startup one year ago, this is how the hectic year went" :) Great job on the launch, sounds like you got some good numbers coming into the site and it was good to get an inside look into response rates/conversion based on a moderate initial launch email list.
- plasma 15y agoI've looked at a few freelance sites before, but turned away because all the "Requests for help" want an e-bay clone for $200. It's at that point I think the entire site is rubbish (low quality offers for work etc), so I think you may want to ensure work offers are reasonable to set a standard.
- wyck 15y agoThis looks just like all the other sites where people want full e-commerce solutions or groupon clones for 200$.