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I know some of the former Twitter engineers, and they were great engineers. I'm sure they built a fairly resilient system. But at the scale and complexity, ev

I know some of the former Twitter engineers, and they were great engineers. I'm sure they built a fairly resilient system. But at the scale and complexity, eventually you hit an unforeseen error that requires some institutional knowledge to fix, and it's doubtful they still have that, unless the ex-engineers loved the product so much they are willing to take phone calls from the people that are left and point them in the right direction. I don't think we landed on a time frame. I'm actually surprised it stayed up this long.

TigeriusKirk 4y ago
Do you actually think it will go down for good? That seems extremely unlikely to me.
- jedberg 4y ago
  No, eventually they would figure out how to rewrite it if they can't get it working again. But I could definitely see a multi-week outage.
  - MrOwnPut 4y ago
    Seems to be back up now. Both logged in and logged out states are working. This thread is just an hour old btw, not sure when the issue started. Seems like a huge reaction from HN for an hour long downtime given that Twitter has gone down for longer in the past.
    - not_a_shill 4y ago
      They do this every time. Last thread I saw was Twitter had an outage for only 10k people for a short amount of time and HN was having a victory lap. I personally don't think that 100% uptime for everyone around the globe is even a worthwhile goal for Twitter. The incremental costs for that last 0.5% aren't worth the incremental benefits. HA is most necessary for what, journalists? (Who are already antagonized under Musk) Everyone else can wait the hour.
    - Daishiman 4y ago
      It's down for me and hasn't worked for the entire weekend.
not_a_shill 4y ago
>I don't think we landed on a time frame. I'm actually surprised it stayed up this long. How much to get in on this? Seems like free money if you thought the time frame was that early.
- renewiltord 4y ago
  The problem with bets with strangers is counterparty risk. The counterparty cannot prove that they will fulfill in the loss scenario, which makes it a guaranteed loss. Bets with friends don't have that problem, since the bet is usually either cash-free or for such a small value that retaining the friendship is more important.
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TigeriusKirk 4y ago

Do you actually think it will go down for good? That seems extremely unlikely to me.

jedberg 4y ago
No, eventually they would figure out how to rewrite it if they can't get it working again. But I could definitely see a multi-week outage.
- MrOwnPut 4y ago
  Seems to be back up now. Both logged in and logged out states are working. This thread is just an hour old btw, not sure when the issue started. Seems like a huge reaction from HN for an hour long downtime given that Twitter has gone down for longer in the past.
  - not_a_shill 4y ago
    They do this every time. Last thread I saw was Twitter had an outage for only 10k people for a short amount of time and HN was having a victory lap. I personally don't think that 100% uptime for everyone around the globe is even a worthwhile goal for Twitter. The incremental costs for that last 0.5% aren't worth the incremental benefits. HA is most necessary for what, journalists? (Who are already antagonized under Musk) Everyone else can wait the hour.
  - Daishiman 4y ago
    It's down for me and hasn't worked for the entire weekend.

not_a_shill 4y ago

>I don't think we landed on a time frame. I'm actually surprised it stayed up this long. How much to get in on this? Seems like free money if you thought the time frame was that early.

renewiltord 4y ago
The problem with bets with strangers is counterparty risk. The counterparty cannot prove that they will fulfill in the loss scenario, which makes it a guaranteed loss. Bets with friends don't have that problem, since the bet is usually either cash-free or for such a small value that retaining the friendship is more important.
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