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> Then there are whole subs banned (including non political) for wrongthink I don't really like defending Reddit, because I don't like them as a company, but I

> Then there are whole subs banned (including non political) for wrongthink I don't really like defending Reddit, because I don't like them as a company, but I don't think this is correct. There's a financial incentive for them to not ban subreddits, so groups have to behave quite obnoxiously or blatantly break Reddit's rules to get banned. Just having a certain political disagreement is not nearly enough. And if you disagree, please post some examples. As an aside, I was curious about the use of the word "wrongthink". It sounds like something Orwell would have come up with, but a search suggests that it's actually a neologism that is used mainly by the alt-right.

realjhol 4y ago
> And if you disagree, please post some examples. The Donald
- brookst 4y ago
  The poster child for vote manipulation? Where front page articles would have 5000 upvotes 10 minutes after posting? The sub that fetishized persecution despite receiving warning by after warning?
  - realjhol 4y ago
    There were a huge number of active users there who lobed up voting anything and everything. It really didn't fetishise persecuting anyone. The warnings were arbitrary and capricious
projektfu 4y ago
Orwell's term is crimethink of course. I can only think of one party that recently passed laws making it a felony to say certain things to certain people. Thankfully you're still allowed to actually hold the thoughts in your head.
- brookst 4y ago
  It has always been a felony to say “certain things to certain people”. See for instance fraud against the elderly. Which certain people are you being unfairly restrained from saying what certain things to?
  - projektfu 4y ago
    Looking into it I probably accepted a framing I shouldn't have.
- carlosjobim 4y ago
  > I can only think of one party that recently passed laws making it a felony to say certain things to certain people. No idea as to what you're referring to, but you must know many more examples throughout the world and history, no?
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  - marcosdumay 4y ago
    That's probably an US-centric comment. I have no idea what it is either, but the "one party that done X" line is a strong signal of it.
benjaminwootton 4y ago
They banned a large Covid sub r/NoNewNormal where the bulk of the content would be accepted as common sense today. Themes in that sub were that “the cure is worse than the disease” (it was) and that “we shouldn’t throw away our way of life for Covid” (we chose not to in hindsight). If you are a member of subs like r/lockdownskepticism even today then you frequently get banned from other subs.
- chimprich 4y ago
  "Common sense" indeed. That subreddit was a hotbed of unscientific anti-vaccine lies. However, it was actually banned for breaking Reddit rules on brigading. https://www.reddit.com/r/redditsecurity/comments/pfyqqn/covid_denialism_and_policy_clarifications/ https://www.reddit.com/r/redditsecurity/comments/pfyqqn/covi... Quote: Claims of “brigading” are common and often hard to quantify. However, in this case, we found very clear signals indicating that r/NoNewNormal was the source of around 80 brigades in the last 30 days (largely directed at communities with more mainstream views on COVID or location-based communities that have been discussing COVID restrictions). This behavior continued even after a warning was issued from our team to the Mods.
  - _dain_ 4y ago
    no, this is BS. pretty much every big political sub does "brigading" against other subs, it's impossible to stop. a handful of bad actors can ruin it for everyone. reddit admins apply the anti-brigading rules selectively. there are big subs that have gotten away with it forever.
- brookst 4y ago
  That’s some revisionist history. That sun was a cesspool of bad behavior. It wasn’t banned for believing the wrong thing, it was banned for organized attacks on anyone who dared to believe differently from them.
tokinonagare 4y ago
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realjhol 4y ago

> And if you disagree, please post some examples. The Donald

brookst 4y ago
The poster child for vote manipulation? Where front page articles would have 5000 upvotes 10 minutes after posting? The sub that fetishized persecution despite receiving warning by after warning?
- realjhol 4y ago
  There were a huge number of active users there who lobed up voting anything and everything. It really didn't fetishise persecuting anyone. The warnings were arbitrary and capricious

projektfu 4y ago

Orwell's term is crimethink of course. I can only think of one party that recently passed laws making it a felony to say certain things to certain people. Thankfully you're still allowed to actually hold the thoughts in your head.

brookst 4y ago
It has always been a felony to say “certain things to certain people”. See for instance fraud against the elderly. Which certain people are you being unfairly restrained from saying what certain things to?
- projektfu 4y ago
  Looking into it I probably accepted a framing I shouldn't have.
carlosjobim 4y ago
> I can only think of one party that recently passed laws making it a felony to say certain things to certain people. No idea as to what you're referring to, but you must know many more examples throughout the world and history, no?
- deleted 4y ago
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- marcosdumay 4y ago
  That's probably an US-centric comment. I have no idea what it is either, but the "one party that done X" line is a strong signal of it.

benjaminwootton 4y ago

They banned a large Covid sub r/NoNewNormal where the bulk of the content would be accepted as common sense today. Themes in that sub were that “the cure is worse than the disease” (it was) and that “we shouldn’t throw away our way of life for Covid” (we chose not to in hindsight). If you are a member of subs like r/lockdownskepticism even today then you frequently get banned from other subs.

chimprich 4y ago
"Common sense" indeed. That subreddit was a hotbed of unscientific anti-vaccine lies. However, it was actually banned for breaking Reddit rules on brigading. https://www.reddit.com/r/redditsecurity/comments/pfyqqn/covid_denialism_and_policy_clarifications/ https://www.reddit.com/r/redditsecurity/comments/pfyqqn/covi... Quote: Claims of “brigading” are common and often hard to quantify. However, in this case, we found very clear signals indicating that r/NoNewNormal was the source of around 80 brigades in the last 30 days (largely directed at communities with more mainstream views on COVID or location-based communities that have been discussing COVID restrictions). This behavior continued even after a warning was issued from our team to the Mods.
- _dain_ 4y ago
  no, this is BS. pretty much every big political sub does "brigading" against other subs, it's impossible to stop. a handful of bad actors can ruin it for everyone. reddit admins apply the anti-brigading rules selectively. there are big subs that have gotten away with it forever.
brookst 4y ago
That’s some revisionist history. That sun was a cesspool of bad behavior. It wasn’t banned for believing the wrong thing, it was banned for organized attacks on anyone who dared to believe differently from them.

tokinonagare 4y ago

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