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Based. I write by hand so rarely now that it hurts my hand to do. (And I was in the cursive cohort. Pretty useless skill in retrospect lol. It's just a way les

Based. I write by hand so rarely now that it hurts my hand to do. (And I was in the cursive cohort. Pretty useless skill in retrospect lol. It's just a way less legible version of regular handwriting.)

ghaff 4y ago
I learned Palmer script. It was always my worst class in grade school. But I can look through years of notes and see it steadily deteriorate to the point that I really can't do cursive any longer (and yes, it hurts my hand to do it for anything beyond a minimal period).
- throwanem 4y ago
  If you want to learn to write in a way that isn't painful, learn to use a fountain pen - a $20 Pilot Metropolitan, or a Lamy Safari for I believe about the same, will do more than well enough. Pencils and ballpoints, and to a lesser but real extent most rollerballs, require so much force to mark the paper that you can't help getting a cramp. Fountain pen ink is thinner and flows more easily, so all you have to do is steer the pen. This makes a very significant difference. Don't start with a gold-nibbed pen - both of those I named use steel. Gold admittedly feels nicer to use, but you need the transitional step to learn better habits; steel is much more forgiving of excess force, and you'll know on your own when you're ready for a more delicate and expressive nib. I used to hate to write longhand, too. I've been using fountain pens for about half a decade now. A few days ago I used one to work out a complex idea over eight A5 pages with no need to pause save occasionally for thought, and my wrist wasn't sore afterward. Here as elsewhere, choosing the proper tool makes all the difference.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    My grade school did indeed require the use of fountain pens at one point. Didn't help and probably ruined a few shirts. These days I mostly use fairly cheap gel pens. I actually prefer them in general to some more expensive pens I own.
  - lo_zamoyski 4y ago
    @ghaff Check out cheap, disposable Pilot Varsity fountain pens. Quite good for what they are.
    - ghaff 4y ago
      Maybe I will. But these days I also just write too quickly for fountain pens. Thanks.
yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
Cursive is faster than print, but I'm less sure that the cost/benefit is there.
butterNaN 4y ago
Your comment reads like you are using voice dictation, which is much on point! (Sans typos)

ghaff 4y ago

I learned Palmer script. It was always my worst class in grade school. But I can look through years of notes and see it steadily deteriorate to the point that I really can't do cursive any longer (and yes, it hurts my hand to do it for anything beyond a minimal period).

throwanem 4y ago
If you want to learn to write in a way that isn't painful, learn to use a fountain pen - a $20 Pilot Metropolitan, or a Lamy Safari for I believe about the same, will do more than well enough. Pencils and ballpoints, and to a lesser but real extent most rollerballs, require so much force to mark the paper that you can't help getting a cramp. Fountain pen ink is thinner and flows more easily, so all you have to do is steer the pen. This makes a very significant difference. Don't start with a gold-nibbed pen - both of those I named use steel. Gold admittedly feels nicer to use, but you need the transitional step to learn better habits; steel is much more forgiving of excess force, and you'll know on your own when you're ready for a more delicate and expressive nib. I used to hate to write longhand, too. I've been using fountain pens for about half a decade now. A few days ago I used one to work out a complex idea over eight A5 pages with no need to pause save occasionally for thought, and my wrist wasn't sore afterward. Here as elsewhere, choosing the proper tool makes all the difference.
- ghaff 4y ago
  My grade school did indeed require the use of fountain pens at one point. Didn't help and probably ruined a few shirts. These days I mostly use fairly cheap gel pens. I actually prefer them in general to some more expensive pens I own.
- lo_zamoyski 4y ago
  @ghaff Check out cheap, disposable Pilot Varsity fountain pens. Quite good for what they are.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    Maybe I will. But these days I also just write too quickly for fountain pens. Thanks.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago

Cursive is faster than print, but I'm less sure that the cost/benefit is there.

butterNaN 4y ago

Your comment reads like you are using voice dictation, which is much on point! (Sans typos)