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As people and groups increasingly move this direction do we think about vectors for abuse in 10, 20 or 50+ years? The human mind is considered the only place w
by donohoe 4y ago
As people and groups increasingly move this direction do we think about vectors for abuse in 10, 20 or 50+ years?
The human mind is considered the only place where we have true privacy. All these efforts are taking that away.
At this rate all notions of privacy will soon be dead.
- andai 4y agoThere was a guy at MIT about ten years ago (edit: 2018! Woah) who made a headset that would read electrical impulses from your face. Apparently when people think in words, the same nerves fire as when they speak, just at a lower activation level. Using those signals it is possible to reconstruct the words being thought. I'm surprised it didn't seem to go anywhere. Edit: found it https://youtu.be/RuUSc53Xpeg https://youtu.be/RuUSc53Xpeg
- judge2020 4y ago> I'm surprised it didn't seem to go anywhere. At least not publicly.
- danem 4y agoThere have been some corporate research groups that have tried to take this approach further, and they all have more or less failed as far as I know.
- nottathrowaway3 4y ago[dead]
- Filligree 4y agoPeople only think in words right before they say something, so I'm not sure how big a deal this is. I guess they'd be able to predict what I'm writing half a second before I write it? Would be useful if I lost the ability to write or speak, for whatever reason.
- slingnow 4y agoCitation definitely needed. I have a nearly constant internal monologue that is 100% composed of words.
- joadha 4y agoI only have that when I'm reading something and really trying to take it all in. Otherwise my internal monologue is a combination of notions, visions, and words. Do you think in complete sentences?
- berniedurfee 4y agoI do
- TechBro8615 4y agoDo you know what it's going to say next? If not, who's generating each new word? And if yes, then isn't this just subvocalization?
- l33t233372 4y ago> If not, who's generating each new word Do you know what your next thought will be? If so, how? Did you think it before you thought it?
- None4U 4y ago> who's generating each new word? Thinking
- judge2020 4y agoMany people do have an internal monologue. The vector is that some police unit presents you with a login form (eg. for your password manager or encrypted filesystem), and you involuntarily think of the password, which this device reads and presents to them.
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- zamadatix 4y agoThe project page claims it's different process than thinking in words: > What exactly is “silent speech”? Does the user have to move his or her face or mouth to use the system? > Silent speech is different from either thinking of words or saying words out loud. Remember when you first learned to read? At first, you spoke the words you read out loud, but then you learned to voice them internally and silently. In order to then proceed to faster reading rates, you had to unlearn the “silent speaking” of the words you read. Silent speaking is a conscious effort to say a word, characterized by subtle movements of internal speech organs without actually voicing it. > Can this device read my mind? What about privacy? > No, this device cannot read your mind. The novelty of this system is that it reads signals from your facial and vocal cord muscles when you intentionally and silently voice words. The system does not have any direct and physical access to brain activity, and therefore cannot read a user's thoughts. It is crucial that the control over input resides absolutely with the user in all situations, and that such an interface not have access to a user's thoughts. The device only reads words that are deliberately silently spoken as inputs. https://www.media.mit.edu/projects/alterego/frequently-asked-questions/ https://www.media.mit.edu/projects/alterego/frequently-asked...
- antegamisou 4y ago> As people and groups increasingly move this direction do we think about vectors for abuse in 10, 20 or 50+ years? No, the delusional shortsighted and revenue-driven SV startup culture doesn't give a shit about such 'technophobic trivialities'.
- ryanjshaw 4y agoYu Takagi, Shinji Nishimoto Graduate School of Frontier Biosciences, Osaka University, Japan
- antegamisou 4y agoYeah, put the blame on the researchers and not the greedy worms VCs are.
- polski-g 4y agoThere is an amazing novel called The Truth Machine by James L Halperin that speaks about this.
- KRAKRISMOTT 4y agoA decade ago we had https://youtu.be/nsjDnYxJ0bo https://youtu.be/nsjDnYxJ0bo
- notfed 4y agoIf this technology becomes accessible to courtrooms or police, they will use it. There will never be a way to encrypt thoughts.
- ryanjshaw 4y agoPrediction: aphantasics will be in high demand for certain roles and activities
- flockonus 4y agoWith all the amazing advances we've seen in the recent years, I'd hope people would now stop thinking "there will never be X".
- notfed 4y agoOk, correction: there will never be a way to encrypt human thoughts. If we reach that point, we won't be human anymore.
- maxerickson 4y agoWhen they tell you to think about what you were doing at the bank on Tuesday, think about what you were doing at the bank on Friday.
- userbinator 4y agoThis is something 1984 was slightly hinting at. Of course, these "advances" will be praised greatly in MSM as providing great benefits for mutes, "harmonious society", and whatever else happens to be the virtue-signaling fad of the moment.
- 323 4y agoHave you seen the size and cost of an fMRI machine? We are a long way away from worrying about this. Cheap cameras everywhere on the other hand...
- roarcher 4y ago> do we think about vectors for abuse in 10, 20 or 50+ years? Of course, but what's to be done about it? Should we outlaw research like this?
- berniedurfee 4y agoNo, but maybe we should think ahead and outlaw some of the activities that will abuse this technology. It’s not hard to imagine some really terrible ways this can be used. A bit of preemptive legislation might be wise as AI is advancing so rapidly.
- omoikane 4y agoIf brainwave scanning reaches a point where those instruments are pervasive, I am sure tinfoil hats or some technology similar in spirit will advance accordingly.
- berniedurfee 4y agoIt feels like we’re at the point in the movie where someone travels back in time to warn humanity of the impending apocalypse soon to be unleashed by our insatiable appetite for technological advancement.