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There were several good versions of Red Hat (IIRC 7.3 was pretty good) and then RH9 had NPTL but unfortunately was incompatible with the rest of the world (very

by dekhn 4y ago

There were several good versions of Red Hat (IIRC 7.3 was pretty good) and then RH9 had NPTL but unfortunately was incompatible with the rest of the world (very custom kernel, userspace, compiler). IIRC the egcs included in that led to all sorts of interesting outcomes.

bitcharmer 4y ago
I'm confused. RH9 is the latest release, how is it custom? What are you referring to exactly?
- surge 4y ago
  RH 9 is different than RHEL 9. Just like Windows 11 is different from Windows 98 (98 doesn't mean it's newer). They went through a rebranding from RedHat Linux to RedHat Enterprise Linux over a decade ago but after or during the SCO nonsense. Early versions of RedHat's Linux were just called RedHat Linux because at the time it was just like any other Linux distro or starting from those early hobbyist roots. RHEL was meant to be stable and have commercial add ons for big companies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux (at the top it notes, not to be confused with Red Hat Linux) What could be thought of as Red Hat Linux today is the Fedora distro (which it was spun off into), which is upstream, more frequently released or up to date (and thus less stable), and targeted at the hobbyist or enthusiast user, which I'm one of the weird people that still uses it. Once something useful goes through its paces on Fedora, it'll eventually get integrated into RHEL where reliability is of higher value than the latest features. I started on RH 5.2 myself, in '99, and literally got it on disc for $40 at BestBuy. I also lived near RedHat's offices (in Durham, NC) at the time and got to visit them once with coworker friends. Exciting time, I was very young, and wish I knew enough to buy stock during its IPO at the time.
- znpy 4y ago
  No, the latest release is rhel9, not rh9. At the time it was just “red hat linux” while today it is “red hat enterprise linux”. The split (and the counter reset) was made to mark the split between a regular distro (fedora core, at the time) and an enterprise-oriented distro (red hat enterprise linux).
- dekhn 4y ago
  Red Hat 9- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Linux was in 2003. I may be misremembering some details since I thought RH9 brought in egcs but it was 7.3 that did that.
- msla 4y ago
  There was a distro called Red Hat, which more-or-less mutated into Fedora, which is and has always been a different distro from Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
nubinetwork 4y ago
7.3 was my first Linux distro, I distro hopped for a few years and settled on Gentoo in 2004... Flash forward to a few weeks ago, I tried installing good ol' 7.3 again and it wouldn't even finish the installer... I don't remember if there was a trick to it, or whether bit rot and architecture changes make it not installable anymore.

by dekhn 4y ago

bitcharmer 4y ago

I'm confused. RH9 is the latest release, how is it custom? What are you referring to exactly?

surge 4y ago
RH 9 is different than RHEL 9. Just like Windows 11 is different from Windows 98 (98 doesn't mean it's newer). They went through a rebranding from RedHat Linux to RedHat Enterprise Linux over a decade ago but after or during the SCO nonsense. Early versions of RedHat's Linux were just called RedHat Linux because at the time it was just like any other Linux distro or starting from those early hobbyist roots. RHEL was meant to be stable and have commercial add ons for big companies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux (at the top it notes, not to be confused with Red Hat Linux) What could be thought of as Red Hat Linux today is the Fedora distro (which it was spun off into), which is upstream, more frequently released or up to date (and thus less stable), and targeted at the hobbyist or enthusiast user, which I'm one of the weird people that still uses it. Once something useful goes through its paces on Fedora, it'll eventually get integrated into RHEL where reliability is of higher value than the latest features. I started on RH 5.2 myself, in '99, and literally got it on disc for $40 at BestBuy. I also lived near RedHat's offices (in Durham, NC) at the time and got to visit them once with coworker friends. Exciting time, I was very young, and wish I knew enough to buy stock during its IPO at the time.
znpy 4y ago
No, the latest release is rhel9, not rh9. At the time it was just “red hat linux” while today it is “red hat enterprise linux”. The split (and the counter reset) was made to mark the split between a regular distro (fedora core, at the time) and an enterprise-oriented distro (red hat enterprise linux).
dekhn 4y ago
Red Hat 9- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Linux was in 2003. I may be misremembering some details since I thought RH9 brought in egcs but it was 7.3 that did that.
msla 4y ago
There was a distro called Red Hat, which more-or-less mutated into Fedora, which is and has always been a different distro from Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

nubinetwork 4y ago

7.3 was my first Linux distro, I distro hopped for a few years and settled on Gentoo in 2004... Flash forward to a few weeks ago, I tried installing good ol' 7.3 again and it wouldn't even finish the installer... I don't remember if there was a trick to it, or whether bit rot and architecture changes make it not installable anymore.