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So there’s these three sets of cells in the eye, each tuned to a different wavelength of light, and the difference in relative activations of each cell type in
by fwlr 4y ago
So there’s these three sets of cells in the eye, each tuned to a different wavelength of light, and the difference in relative activations of each cell type in response to a given light is what provides color information. Which wavelength each set of cells is tuned to varies quite a bit person to person. If your wavelength “tunings” for two types of cells are too close together, then there’s less relative difference in their activation for any given wavelength of light, and thus - in the most rigorous information-theoretic sense - there is literally less color information available.
We pick an arbitrary threshold of diminished color information and call that CVD, color vision deficiency. Depending on which threshold you pick for CVD, males are anywhere from 10 to 20 to 50 _times_ more likely to have it than females. Of course, this “has / does not have CVD” binary is an artifact of us picking a threshold; the real underlying mechanism is that the distribution of wavelength tunings in the male population is much more heavily weighted towards “overlapping”.
Put another way, you have two overlapping bell curves of “how much color information can your eye cells theoretically generate” and if you drop a single point on that graph you can capture 1% of females and 10% of males to the left of it (for that 10x figure), or 0.02% of females and 1% of males to the left of the chosen point (for that 50x figure), or anywhere in between. And the fact that you can do this tells us the two bell curves very likely have different means and standard deviations.
The search term is “spectral sensitivity” if you’re interested in finding out more.
(I do know that “but it’s true” isn’t considered to be a good rebuttal to “it’s a stereotype”, but it kinda seems like it should be, and I don’t really know why it isn’t. Also, as someone with extreme CVD, color vision is just a fantastically interesting topic regardless of sex differences. The way those EnChroma glasses that “treat” color vision deficiency work is they block out a small section of the light wavelengths where CVD tends to have high overlap. This artificially increases the relative difference in activation, meaning the brain can extract more color data, with the practical result that people with CVD put on these glasses and see colors with an intensity they’ve never seen before. But it gets even cooler! For instance, did you know if we develop the technology to directly stimulate those different wavelength receptors independently of each other, we can make those receptors report “differences in relative activation” that are literally impossible to achieve with any combination of light wavelengths? That is, the cells will happily report perfectly well-formed color data to the brain, except that it’s data in a range that no brain has ever received before. The visual cortex seems like it does fairly general information processing, at least at the lower levels before we start tagging that information with e.g. emotional responses or linguistic names, so on some level our brain would probably be able to make immediate sense of this previously “out of band” information. It must be able to do so, or else CVD sufferers wouldn’t get such vivid reactions to EnChroma glasses. So it’s very plausible that this procedure would instantly unlock actual “new color experiences” for everyone. How cool is that?)
- dekhn 4y agoI'm a biologist with a PhD in biophysics and work in optics, you don't need to explain the biology. My complaint was with the way it was said, it looks immature and promoting stereotypes about color perception in daily life. With the exception of color blindness, the difference in perception between women and men is much smaller than the variation across all humans. There are many things where we can measure a difference that is "significant" but in reality, insignificant (IE, passes a t-test with bonferroni or other multiple tests correction, but doesn't matter in any way at all during life). Much more interesting than "seeing"/"perceiving" colors that most humans don't (example: tetrachromancy) is seeing polarization. I can see polarization but it was self-taught (see the page on Haidinger's brush and then go outside and look at the sky with polarized glasses on/off.... after a bit, you will realize you actualyl can "see" the polarization.
- chowells 4y ago"But it's true" isn't a good rebuttal to a stereotype that's based on social factors. For instance, "Jewish people are good with money" is a social construct, caused by the Catholics banning their adherants from working in banks for centuries. There's no inherent difference between groups as far as being able to do the job. It's the result of centuries of social distortions applied to who can do what job. If the social distortions (which still happen today, often propagated by the stereotype itself) ended, the difference would cease to exist. It's important to distinguish the difference between intrinsic differences and socially-constructed differences. And we keep discovering more differences are socially constructed than we had previously thought. Even the idea that men are worse at color perception has a significant social component. That's what the OP was referring to - the social construct caused by telling children that caring about color distinctions isn't a masculine trait. Sure, there's also an intrinsic difference, with color perception having a sex-linked genetic component. That is real. But it's not the entire story, and I'd be wary of making blanket statements that assume the intrinsic property is the only one.