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It sounds like you might be happier in Android land. You can load whatever apps you want and even some you don’t[1]. [1] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/

by minton 4y ago

It sounds like you might be happier in Android land. You can load whatever apps you want and even some you don’t[1]. [1] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-use-fake-chatgpt-apps-to-push-windows-android-malware/amp/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-use-f...

shaky-carrousel 4y ago
No, apple hardware is better. And now software will be better too.
- ericmay 4y ago
  Overall the experience will be worse. No doubt about that. Features like the Privacy Nutrition Scorecard (I can't remember what it's actually called) won't be nearly as powerful, for example, because other giant multi-national corporations will just create their own app stores to avoid playing by Apple's rules and "paying the Apple tax", which is something that they have to pay and end consumers don't. I.e. it's just a payment negotiation between big corporations. It'll also lead to fragmentation and you'll have to manage 5-10 different "app stores" in order to use apps that you use day-to-day right now. Overall it's just going to be a mess and really suck. Fortunately I don't use many apps so I don't see this affecting me personally other than occasional annoyance when I can't find something I may need in the future or having to help family members fix their phones now. For many though their experience using the iPhone will be degraded, particularly when it comes to software.
  - pbhjpbhj 4y ago
    >which is something that they have to pay and end consumers don't. I.e. it's just a payment negotiation between big corporations. I'm sure the execs sell a yacht to pay their Apple taxes target than pass on costs as they do for everything else. /s
    - ericmay 4y ago
      It's like this: There's a price that the market (consumers) will bear to pay for a service. Let's call it MyBigBrand and you charge $5/month or idk, $10 for a one-time purchase. Apple charges whatever their fee is, let's call it 30%, and they keep this fee and do lots of things with it including buy back stock and reinvest in improving their services. MyBigBrand comes along and says hey that's not fair! They launch a marketing campaign "The Apple Tax" and file lawsuits. Courts decide Apple should allow 3rd-party app stores or that they can't charge the fee or have to reduce it. In each of those scenarios, MyBigBrand continues to charge customers $5/month for their product. All that's occuring here is whether or not MyBigBrand gets to pay less to Apple or whether Apple gets to continue to charge MyBigBrand and eat into their margins. For a consumer you still pay the same fee for the product, or potentially you have to download some other app store that MyBigBrand owns or collaborates with MyOtherBigBrand on and then they split the costs and keep more of the margin. At the end of the day people are being duped into really caring about who gets to keep more of their money and it just doesn't matter, except that it appears Apple does something beneficial with the money they keep and having multiple app stores with exclusive apps will suck and be annoying.
  - shaky-carrousel 4y ago
    Yeah, like Android. 10 app stores and today nobody downloads their apps from Google Play anymore. Also all Androids are full of viruses too. Those reckless grandmas and their Android phones...

by minton 4y ago

shaky-carrousel 4y ago

No, apple hardware is better. And now software will be better too.

ericmay 4y ago
Overall the experience will be worse. No doubt about that. Features like the Privacy Nutrition Scorecard (I can't remember what it's actually called) won't be nearly as powerful, for example, because other giant multi-national corporations will just create their own app stores to avoid playing by Apple's rules and "paying the Apple tax", which is something that they have to pay and end consumers don't. I.e. it's just a payment negotiation between big corporations. It'll also lead to fragmentation and you'll have to manage 5-10 different "app stores" in order to use apps that you use day-to-day right now. Overall it's just going to be a mess and really suck. Fortunately I don't use many apps so I don't see this affecting me personally other than occasional annoyance when I can't find something I may need in the future or having to help family members fix their phones now. For many though their experience using the iPhone will be degraded, particularly when it comes to software.
- pbhjpbhj 4y ago
  >which is something that they have to pay and end consumers don't. I.e. it's just a payment negotiation between big corporations. I'm sure the execs sell a yacht to pay their Apple taxes target than pass on costs as they do for everything else. /s
  - ericmay 4y ago
    It's like this: There's a price that the market (consumers) will bear to pay for a service. Let's call it MyBigBrand and you charge $5/month or idk, $10 for a one-time purchase. Apple charges whatever their fee is, let's call it 30%, and they keep this fee and do lots of things with it including buy back stock and reinvest in improving their services. MyBigBrand comes along and says hey that's not fair! They launch a marketing campaign "The Apple Tax" and file lawsuits. Courts decide Apple should allow 3rd-party app stores or that they can't charge the fee or have to reduce it. In each of those scenarios, MyBigBrand continues to charge customers $5/month for their product. All that's occuring here is whether or not MyBigBrand gets to pay less to Apple or whether Apple gets to continue to charge MyBigBrand and eat into their margins. For a consumer you still pay the same fee for the product, or potentially you have to download some other app store that MyBigBrand owns or collaborates with MyOtherBigBrand on and then they split the costs and keep more of the margin. At the end of the day people are being duped into really caring about who gets to keep more of their money and it just doesn't matter, except that it appears Apple does something beneficial with the money they keep and having multiple app stores with exclusive apps will suck and be annoying.
- shaky-carrousel 4y ago
  Yeah, like Android. 10 app stores and today nobody downloads their apps from Google Play anymore. Also all Androids are full of viruses too. Those reckless grandmas and their Android phones...