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Pregnancy is killing 800 women a day

27 points by MoSattler 4y ago

MoSattler 4y ago
https://archive.ph/a7kJJ https://archive.ph/a7kJJ
seydor 4y ago
We had a lot of progress in artificial wombs i wonder whats the status in 2023
- Beaver117 4y ago
  It's DOA for so many reasons
gwatch 4y ago
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GrigoriyMikh 4y ago
> New death certificates were introduced which identify whether a woman was pregnant at, or shortly before, their death—regardless of the cause So pregnancy is not necessary the cause of death? That is very important moment, which is very vaguely covered in the article.
- spacebanana7 4y ago
  Seems like a pregnant woman who died as a passenger in a car crash would be included in these figures
  - nixass 4y ago
    Also people who breathe air. What a terrible article :D
  - GrigoriyMikh 4y ago
    Yes, exactly the example that i thought about. The pregnancy status is almost useless if the cause of death is missing. It gives no data on underlying problems that needs to be solved.
    - tuyiown 4y ago
      It useful when comparing (and only when comparing) pregnant with non pregnant, especially with others criteria (typically, age). The covariance between pregnancy and cause of death is what you want to seek, the only thing that would make that data unusable is a (very) common cause of death covariant with pregnancy, but unrelated to pregnancies. Like, for some reason, pregnant women would start reckless activities, but this behavior change would not be caused by pregnancy, either for physical or social reason.
      - belorn 4y ago
        It seems like that data would be very noisy data. Criteria for age would be one obvious thing, but it would also include social status, social support networks, hours on the road, frequency of visiting the doctor, distance to doctor and home, stress and access to leisure time, cultural factors, economical factors and many more. The conclusions would also be conditions on such factors and how the interact with each other.
roschdal 4y ago
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- JosephRedfern 4y ago
  What is wrong with you?
  - deleted 4y ago
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hit8run 4y ago
800 is still way too much, but given that we are 7 billion people on the planet the number seems rather low.
tuyiown 4y ago
Note, the title is meaningless clickbait, the content actually analyzes data by comparison between dates.
Katzmann1983 4y ago
This text is panik driving "journalism". It ignores that women in Europe are now on average older than 20 years ago during a pregnancy. Thus the risk of anything bad happening is higher. Without age-adjusting, it does not really help much. Also risks without comparisons are often meant to focus on one issue, and ignoring lots of others: All races and origins, female, 20-24 years (CDC) ... All causes 5,485 100.0 50.9 1 Accidents (unintentional injuries) (V01-X59,Y85-Y86)2,502 45.6 23.2 2 Intentional self-harm (suicide) (*U03,X60-X84,Y87.0) 672 12.3 6.2 3 Assault (homicide) (*U01-\*U02,X85-Y09,Y87.1) 428 7.8 4.0 4 Malignant neoplasms (C00-C97) 313 5.7 2.9 5 Diseases of heart (I00-I09,I11,I13,I20-I51) 195 3.6 1.8 6 Pregnancy, childbirth and the puerperium (O00-O99) 140 2.6 1.3 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/lcwk/lcwk1_hr_2017-a.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/lcwk/lcwk1_hr_2017-a.pdf
xiphias2 4y ago
Most of the problems in Africa has to do with not having enough money. It's very hard to solve, but we could start by forgiving all debt and letting Africa develop by itself. ,,Africa’s debt as a percentage of GDP has been rising quickly since 2014, and is 24.1% of African countries’ GDP (as of 2023 for countries with available data). Yet many individual countries have rates far higher.' https://data.one.org/topics/african-debt https://data.one.org/topics/african-debt
- atom058 4y ago
  > Most of the problems in Africa has to do with not having enough money. > ,,Africa’s debt as a percentage of GDP has been rising quickly since 2014, and is 24.1% of African countries’ GDP (as of 2023 for countries with available data). 24.1% is quite low when it comes to national debt to GDP ratios. Actually quite surprised with that figure. But then again, the interest rates on those loans are probably quite high. Here is a list for context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_de...

27 points by MoSattler 4y ago

MoSattler 4y ago

https://archive.ph/a7kJJ https://archive.ph/a7kJJ

seydor 4y ago

We had a lot of progress in artificial wombs i wonder whats the status in 2023

Beaver117 4y ago
It's DOA for so many reasons

gwatch 4y ago

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GrigoriyMikh 4y ago

> New death certificates were introduced which identify whether a woman was pregnant at, or shortly before, their death—regardless of the cause So pregnancy is not necessary the cause of death? That is very important moment, which is very vaguely covered in the article.

spacebanana7 4y ago
Seems like a pregnant woman who died as a passenger in a car crash would be included in these figures
- nixass 4y ago
  Also people who breathe air. What a terrible article :D
- GrigoriyMikh 4y ago
  Yes, exactly the example that i thought about. The pregnancy status is almost useless if the cause of death is missing. It gives no data on underlying problems that needs to be solved.
  - tuyiown 4y ago
    It useful when comparing (and only when comparing) pregnant with non pregnant, especially with others criteria (typically, age). The covariance between pregnancy and cause of death is what you want to seek, the only thing that would make that data unusable is a (very) common cause of death covariant with pregnancy, but unrelated to pregnancies. Like, for some reason, pregnant women would start reckless activities, but this behavior change would not be caused by pregnancy, either for physical or social reason.
    - belorn 4y ago
      It seems like that data would be very noisy data. Criteria for age would be one obvious thing, but it would also include social status, social support networks, hours on the road, frequency of visiting the doctor, distance to doctor and home, stress and access to leisure time, cultural factors, economical factors and many more. The conclusions would also be conditions on such factors and how the interact with each other.

roschdal 4y ago

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JosephRedfern 4y ago
What is wrong with you?
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]

hit8run 4y ago

800 is still way too much, but given that we are 7 billion people on the planet the number seems rather low.

tuyiown 4y ago

Note, the title is meaningless clickbait, the content actually analyzes data by comparison between dates.

Katzmann1983 4y ago

This text is panik driving "journalism". It ignores that women in Europe are now on average older than 20 years ago during a pregnancy. Thus the risk of anything bad happening is higher. Without age-adjusting, it does not really help much. Also risks without comparisons are often meant to focus on one issue, and ignoring lots of others: All races and origins, female, 20-24 years (CDC) ... All causes 5,485 100.0 50.9 1 Accidents (unintentional injuries) (V01-X59,Y85-Y86)2,502 45.6 23.2 2 Intentional self-harm (suicide) (*U03,X60-X84,Y87.0) 672 12.3 6.2 3 Assault (homicide) (*U01-\*U02,X85-Y09,Y87.1) 428 7.8 4.0 4 Malignant neoplasms (C00-C97) 313 5.7 2.9 5 Diseases of heart (I00-I09,I11,I13,I20-I51) 195 3.6 1.8 6 Pregnancy, childbirth and the puerperium (O00-O99) 140 2.6 1.3 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/lcwk/lcwk1_hr_2017-a.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/lcwk/lcwk1_hr_2017-a.pdf

xiphias2 4y ago

Most of the problems in Africa has to do with not having enough money. It's very hard to solve, but we could start by forgiving all debt and letting Africa develop by itself. ,,Africa’s debt as a percentage of GDP has been rising quickly since 2014, and is 24.1% of African countries’ GDP (as of 2023 for countries with available data). Yet many individual countries have rates far higher.' https://data.one.org/topics/african-debt https://data.one.org/topics/african-debt

atom058 4y ago
> Most of the problems in Africa has to do with not having enough money. > ,,Africa’s debt as a percentage of GDP has been rising quickly since 2014, and is 24.1% of African countries’ GDP (as of 2023 for countries with available data). 24.1% is quite low when it comes to national debt to GDP ratios. Actually quite surprised with that figure. But then again, the interest rates on those loans are probably quite high. Here is a list for context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_de...