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> Given how women are often treated by other women, I totally understand why they would chafe at being given this sort of advice. I think it is ad-hominem fall
by birdyrooster 4y ago
> Given how women are often treated by other women, I totally understand why they would chafe at being given this sort of advice.
I think it is ad-hominem fallacy to say that an argument's provenance changes it in any significant way whether it comes from a man or a woman.
- kadoban 4y ago> I think it is ad-hominem fallacy to say that an argument's provenance changes Advice isn't an argument.
- stOneskull 4y agosometimes it is
- JohnFen 4y agoI'm not exactly sure what you're saying here, because "provenance" literally means "where it came from", so by definition it changes according to who is giving the advice. I assume that you mean something more like "how good the advice is". And you're right. But that's not the point. The point is that most women are constantly being told how they should or should not be by men, usually in a way that is treating them as if they were children. So when they are unnecessarily instructed by men about how to be safer in world where it's mostly men that makes it dangerous for them, I totally understand why that might be irritating. No matter what the message is, who gives it is often the primary thing that determines how it will be received.
- birdyrooster 4y agoI am saying that it is ad-hominem fallacy to say that advice (aka arguments) are any less valid based on their provenance, or as you put it “where it came from” (and of course, who it came from).
- JohnFen 4y agoOk, then I understood you correctly. :)