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> “barely usable” I run Hyprland just fine with Wayland, I seriously doubt it is barely usable. > IPv6 of desktops Dunno if you’ve looked at your ip link lat

> “barely usable” I run Hyprland just fine with Wayland, I seriously doubt it is barely usable. > IPv6 of desktops Dunno if you’ve looked at your ip link lately but you probably have an ipv6 address!

csdvrx 4y ago
> I run Hyprland just fine with Wayland, I seriously doubt it is barely usable. Same. I wasn't convinced about Wayland until I tried Hyprland. It's just great! The design of X11 meant many windows managers, which mostly were average. But that was ok, as the issues could be addressed by separate tools Wayland had 3 issues 1) not many tools (now there's wev, ydotools...) 2) they were limited in what they could do, as the keys to the kingdom are mostly given to the compositor, and 3) outside sway (with its own issues) the compositors were not so great. So if you didn't have a good one, or if it was missing essential options, you suffered until you went back to X: to prep my laptop for uni in the late 2010s I evaluated wayland but returned to X as it was simpler to get a better experience. Now with hyprland, I love wayland: I can script again very precise behaviors with hyprctl and wlrctl. The foot terminal emulator is great. Edge works fine with the right wayland options. Much has changed since I first discovered Wayland in 2016: I'd put 50% of that on hyprland (it's seriously wonderful) and the other half on the availability of more wayland-compatible tools. I'm eagerly waiting for the patches for wine on wayland: not just because I love Office, but because for a long time it was said to be impossible to have a good wine experience on wayland. Well, these patches prove it wasn't impossible, just a bit hard, and old people are stuck in their ways and hate change even for better tools. It's like how systemd was so unpopular at first, except it had most of everything ready. Wayland in comparison was missing many small tools that are only important for very few people (ex: for scripting) but about everyone had one thing they couldn't do on Wayland.
cwillu 4y ago
Having an ipv6 address is the easy part. Having ping6 actually able to ping something over ipv6 is another thing entirely.
- raydiatian 4y ago
  I don’t know that much. Why does ping6 matter? Isn’t most internet traffic HTTPS? Like when I check my cloud logs they’re all coming from ipv6 addrs, so I figured it was working

csdvrx 4y ago

> I run Hyprland just fine with Wayland, I seriously doubt it is barely usable. Same. I wasn't convinced about Wayland until I tried Hyprland. It's just great! The design of X11 meant many windows managers, which mostly were average. But that was ok, as the issues could be addressed by separate tools Wayland had 3 issues 1) not many tools (now there's wev, ydotools...) 2) they were limited in what they could do, as the keys to the kingdom are mostly given to the compositor, and 3) outside sway (with its own issues) the compositors were not so great. So if you didn't have a good one, or if it was missing essential options, you suffered until you went back to X: to prep my laptop for uni in the late 2010s I evaluated wayland but returned to X as it was simpler to get a better experience. Now with hyprland, I love wayland: I can script again very precise behaviors with hyprctl and wlrctl. The foot terminal emulator is great. Edge works fine with the right wayland options. Much has changed since I first discovered Wayland in 2016: I'd put 50% of that on hyprland (it's seriously wonderful) and the other half on the availability of more wayland-compatible tools. I'm eagerly waiting for the patches for wine on wayland: not just because I love Office, but because for a long time it was said to be impossible to have a good wine experience on wayland. Well, these patches prove it wasn't impossible, just a bit hard, and old people are stuck in their ways and hate change even for better tools. It's like how systemd was so unpopular at first, except it had most of everything ready. Wayland in comparison was missing many small tools that are only important for very few people (ex: for scripting) but about everyone had one thing they couldn't do on Wayland.

cwillu 4y ago

Having an ipv6 address is the easy part. Having ping6 actually able to ping something over ipv6 is another thing entirely.

raydiatian 4y ago
I don’t know that much. Why does ping6 matter? Isn’t most internet traffic HTTPS? Like when I check my cloud logs they’re all coming from ipv6 addrs, so I figured it was working