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> she declined over the next 250 years to be just another European power. Why would we want 300 millions inhabitants in France ? That's what we would have with

> she declined over the next 250 years to be just another European power. Why would we want 300 millions inhabitants in France ? That's what we would have with the density of the Netherlands. Why couldn't France be on top of leisure, urban transports, ecology, natural ecosystems, technology, political innovation, and even military defense, with 70 million inhabitants ? Worlwide politics are biased, always considering GDP first, instead of a myriad of more relevant indicators.

notyourday 4y ago
What happens in the next 100 years?
- immibis 4y ago
  We increase the human population by another 100x in the never-ending quest to increase GDP, then we run out of resources and die. Dolphins become the most intelligent life on the planet.
  - hardlianotion 4y ago
    What dolphins?
    - dopidopHN 4y ago
      Fine, rats if dolphin are gone
      - lordnacho 4y ago
        Rats are sharing a boat with us, they'll work mighty hard to make sure we don't go.
  - spongeb00b 4y ago
    "Thanks for all the fish"
  - notyourday 4y ago
    > We increase the human population by another 100x in the never-ending quest to increase GDP, then we run out of resources and die. As Musk likes to point out, Japan already has adult diapers outselling baby diapers. I don't think running out of resources is a risk.
  - bluGill 4y ago
    Population is on track to peak and start declining around 2050
    - immibis 4y ago
      That trend is the one thing that may still save us, but don't worry, they'll find a way to prevent that, because a decreasing population also decreases GDP and the stock market, and we can't have that.
      - pas 4y ago
        nah. GDP growth can continue even with a fixed number of people. it'll just need more energy and more capital goods.
AdrianB1 4y ago
I did not read the article as "we want 300 million in France", but a study on demographics and the number is just a projection of a data point a few hundred years ago to compare with current number.
ChuckNorris89 4y ago
>with 70 million inhabitants Because capitalists want more. More workers, more consumers, more sales, more demand for housing, more demand for goods, more profit.
- goodpoint 4y ago
  That, an also race supremacists and nationalists. It all stems from the idea that a category of people should grow and dominate the world.
  - ryan93 4y ago
    Where will smart africans go if there is not a west? Asia is pretty anti immigrant. South america is poor. Arab nations are repressive.
uonpopular_th 4y ago
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thriftwy 4y ago
The USA or Brazil could have been speaking French today if France had higher fertility rate and thus could export its culture via people. That would obviously benefit its reach.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  I and most people my age in Eastern Europe learned English in the '90s only from American video games and movies instead of French despite us being culturally and geographically closer to France that the US. If France wanted to export its culture abroad then it should invest in making some kick-ass games and movies, not breed more. US successfully exported its culture here because it made the best entertainment in the world and we couldn't get enough of it, not because it was a numerous population.
  - thriftwy 4y ago
    I believe that population and entertainment are connected directly. If you have 4x the population you will be swimming downstream when trying to influence others culturally. Larger domestic market, more money, more eyeballs, more creators.
  - nostromo 4y ago
    The size of the English-speaking market certainly matters. Why make a $100 million video game like GTA 5 for 200 million French speakers when you can address the market of 2 billion global English speakers? (Of course, they do localize it to French after developing it in English. But not everything gets localized and usually it’s targeted primarily at the English market.)
    - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
      >The size of the English-speaking market certainly matters. Meh, yo a degree yes, but not always. Korean entertainment had some international smash hits recently that went viral like Parasite, Squid Game, and All Of Us Are Dead, and they were all in Korean not in English. Quality mattes more than language.

notyourday 4y ago

What happens in the next 100 years?

immibis 4y ago
We increase the human population by another 100x in the never-ending quest to increase GDP, then we run out of resources and die. Dolphins become the most intelligent life on the planet.
- hardlianotion 4y ago
  What dolphins?
  - dopidopHN 4y ago
    Fine, rats if dolphin are gone
    - lordnacho 4y ago
      Rats are sharing a boat with us, they'll work mighty hard to make sure we don't go.
- spongeb00b 4y ago
  "Thanks for all the fish"
- notyourday 4y ago
  > We increase the human population by another 100x in the never-ending quest to increase GDP, then we run out of resources and die. As Musk likes to point out, Japan already has adult diapers outselling baby diapers. I don't think running out of resources is a risk.
- bluGill 4y ago
  Population is on track to peak and start declining around 2050
  - immibis 4y ago
    That trend is the one thing that may still save us, but don't worry, they'll find a way to prevent that, because a decreasing population also decreases GDP and the stock market, and we can't have that.
    - pas 4y ago
      nah. GDP growth can continue even with a fixed number of people. it'll just need more energy and more capital goods.

AdrianB1 4y ago

I did not read the article as "we want 300 million in France", but a study on demographics and the number is just a projection of a data point a few hundred years ago to compare with current number.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

>with 70 million inhabitants Because capitalists want more. More workers, more consumers, more sales, more demand for housing, more demand for goods, more profit.

goodpoint 4y ago
That, an also race supremacists and nationalists. It all stems from the idea that a category of people should grow and dominate the world.
- ryan93 4y ago
  Where will smart africans go if there is not a west? Asia is pretty anti immigrant. South america is poor. Arab nations are repressive.

uonpopular_th 4y ago

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thriftwy 4y ago

The USA or Brazil could have been speaking French today if France had higher fertility rate and thus could export its culture via people. That would obviously benefit its reach.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
I and most people my age in Eastern Europe learned English in the '90s only from American video games and movies instead of French despite us being culturally and geographically closer to France that the US. If France wanted to export its culture abroad then it should invest in making some kick-ass games and movies, not breed more. US successfully exported its culture here because it made the best entertainment in the world and we couldn't get enough of it, not because it was a numerous population.
- thriftwy 4y ago
  I believe that population and entertainment are connected directly. If you have 4x the population you will be swimming downstream when trying to influence others culturally. Larger domestic market, more money, more eyeballs, more creators.
- nostromo 4y ago
  The size of the English-speaking market certainly matters. Why make a $100 million video game like GTA 5 for 200 million French speakers when you can address the market of 2 billion global English speakers? (Of course, they do localize it to French after developing it in English. But not everything gets localized and usually it’s targeted primarily at the English market.)
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    >The size of the English-speaking market certainly matters. Meh, yo a degree yes, but not always. Korean entertainment had some international smash hits recently that went viral like Parasite, Squid Game, and All Of Us Are Dead, and they were all in Korean not in English. Quality mattes more than language.