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> when they cannot install whatsapp or messenger or their banking app anymore. Hyperbole much? That's a ridiculous claim. I've been sporting a "renewed" Samsun

> when they cannot install whatsapp or messenger or their banking app anymore. Hyperbole much? That's a ridiculous claim. I've been sporting a "renewed" Samsung S10E since early 2021. There's still nothing it can't do. Prior to that I owned a Galaxy S7 since 2016! That's a 5 whole years without any phone issues on an Android phone. I turned on the S7 a few months back and after an update, all the apps still work.

fdaryfdyfgd 4y ago
that's at least 3 years each using a phone with absolutely no security updates to network, wifi, cryptolibs, html/js engine etc. not that iphone are any better. you have zero idea what you get on a new ios for old devices since the binaries are not the same. only thing you can be certain is the extra slow down loop
- piperswe 4y ago
  The HTML/JS engine does get updated, it's contained in a component called "Android System WebView" on the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.webview&hl=en_US&gl=US&pli=1 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...
  - kyriakos 4y ago
    A big benefit of Android, its modular and bits and pieces can be updated independently. Part of the reason iPhones require to have long term OS support is the fact that their browser would otherwise be stuck at an old version.
    - IshKebab 4y ago
      You have it backwards. In the early days Android didn't have any components in the Play Store and Apple still provided updates for much much longer than Android manufacturers. Google moved the web browser component to the Play Store because Android's OS updates are so bad. They had no choice but to do it. Apple could do it too if they wanted to but they don't need to because they actually provide OS updates for a decent period.
      - kyriakos 4y ago
        Regardless of the history though, now, Chrome (+ webview) and Firefox on Android receive at least one update per month (sometimes more frequently). Thats a plus.
- eganist 4y ago
  Samsung supports 4 years of updates as of last February. The S10E is in that window, too. https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-android-updates-1148888/ https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-android-updates-114...
- y-c-o-m-b 4y ago
  On the S7 I got security updates up until September 2020 IIRC. I anticipate the S10E will continue to receive security updates for just a little while longer and it's currently on Android 12. My point was that old Android phones "not working" after a few years is complete bs. The S10E was launched in March 2019 and still going strong. EDIT: Looks like the S10E is still getting monthly security updates too: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/sm-g970f/xeo/doc.html https://doc.samsungmobile.com/sm-g970f/xeo/doc.html

fdaryfdyfgd 4y ago

that's at least 3 years each using a phone with absolutely no security updates to network, wifi, cryptolibs, html/js engine etc. not that iphone are any better. you have zero idea what you get on a new ios for old devices since the binaries are not the same. only thing you can be certain is the extra slow down loop

piperswe 4y ago
The HTML/JS engine does get updated, it's contained in a component called "Android System WebView" on the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.webview&hl=en_US&gl=US&pli=1 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...
- kyriakos 4y ago
  A big benefit of Android, its modular and bits and pieces can be updated independently. Part of the reason iPhones require to have long term OS support is the fact that their browser would otherwise be stuck at an old version.
  - IshKebab 4y ago
    You have it backwards. In the early days Android didn't have any components in the Play Store and Apple still provided updates for much much longer than Android manufacturers. Google moved the web browser component to the Play Store because Android's OS updates are so bad. They had no choice but to do it. Apple could do it too if they wanted to but they don't need to because they actually provide OS updates for a decent period.
    - kyriakos 4y ago
      Regardless of the history though, now, Chrome (+ webview) and Firefox on Android receive at least one update per month (sometimes more frequently). Thats a plus.
eganist 4y ago
Samsung supports 4 years of updates as of last February. The S10E is in that window, too. https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-android-updates-1148888/ https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-android-updates-114...
y-c-o-m-b 4y ago
On the S7 I got security updates up until September 2020 IIRC. I anticipate the S10E will continue to receive security updates for just a little while longer and it's currently on Android 12. My point was that old Android phones "not working" after a few years is complete bs. The S10E was launched in March 2019 and still going strong. EDIT: Looks like the S10E is still getting monthly security updates too: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/sm-g970f/xeo/doc.html https://doc.samsungmobile.com/sm-g970f/xeo/doc.html