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I'd work from a toilet stall for a Google L6 comp band I doubt any Googlers actually care about this stuff
by shmatt 4y ago
I'd work from a toilet stall for a Google L6 comp band
I doubt any Googlers actually care about this stuff
- carom 4y agoI used to say something similar to this but then I worked at Google. It turns out I care a lot more about working on interesting problems than I do about fat checks.
- moffkalast 4y agoGoogle still has interesting problems to work on? I thought they just printed money with adsense and launched projects just so they could cancel them 2 weeks later. /s
- roflyear 4y agoI think he's saying they don't have interesting problems to work on.
- leros 4y agoCompanies like Google have a unique problem. They attract the best engineers, but they still have lots of boring work to be done. So they end up hiring brilliant engineers only to have them work on uninteresting things like financial reports. My company created a whole separate job title which basically equates to "less skilled and lower payed developer" so we can hire more average engineers to do that kind of work without diluting our quality of engineers.
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago> It turns out I care a lot more about working on interesting problems than I do about fat checks. It is definitely possible to get a fat check and work on interesting problems at Google. But you need to be really picky with what team you work for (obviously, not so easy ATM).
- CydeWeys 4y agoI'm a Googler who very much cares about having my own desk. I hate WFH because I find it to be miserable, strongly prefer WFO, and this would make WFO miserable too. I'm not gonna be miserable for 8 hours every day for any amount of money.
- scarface74 4y agoHow is WFH miserable and if it is, it’s your home, can’t you make it more comfortable?
- gwoplock 4y agoNot OP, but for me, it's the isolation. I wouldn't quite call it miserable unless I can't go out. I lasted only a few days into WFH for COVID before I went to live with my parents until I was forced back to the office. Just a few weeks ago I was snowed in for a week and I was about to crawl up the walls.
- scarface74 4y agoIf I were single, I can see how that would make a difference. When I was forced to both work from home and not go to the gym and hang out with friends after work and I was single a decade ago during bad weather, that was miserable.
- wkat4242 4y agoI'm single and I love WFH and I avoid the office as much as possible, coming less than required. Especially now with the stupid hotdesking. I actually have more time to socialize now <3 People are different.
- haunter 4y agoNot OP but WFH to me is like living at my workplace. There is no boundary anymore between work and home. This where I work, this is where I live. This gone with WFH. I much rather prefer the physical separation of office and my private home.
- dgacmu 4y agoNot a chance. Toilet stalls are in higher demand (during peak hours) than desks.
- sct202 4y agoMy company switched to hot desks and didn't add any restroom capacity even though the peak building population was much higher. It was pretty terrible on days where everyone was there for all hands/townhalls.
- 2ICofafireteam 4y agoI just commented elsewhere about this, but look into the allowed occupant load; bathroom capacity is a factor where I am.
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- outworlder 4y ago> I'd work from a toilet stall for a Google L6 comp band For maybe a quarter, until your brain adapts. Once you have your needs met, there's diminishing returns. You can still be miserable while getting a fat check.
- leros 4y agoPlus you'd have Google on your resume, so now you get a job just about anywhere, so you can leave Google for similar pay at a better company.
- jrockway 4y agoGoogle definitely doesn't have a spare toilet for you. I remember a group of coworkers threatening to file a complaint with OSHA because the number of toilets was so limited. (I just used the bathrooms that were part of the building but not managed by Google. They were not "nice" so nobody was ever in there, but it was better than waiting in line to use the facilities.)
- dpifke 4y agoI worked in a building on the Mountain View campus where they brought in porta-potties to "solve" the bathroom problem. (They were very nice porta-potties, but still...) For anyone who's curious, OSHA does require a minimum number of toilets per male or female employee (https://www.osha.gov/restrooms-sanitation https://www.osha.gov/restrooms-sanitation), and the law doesn't permit co-ed restrooms unless the stall dividers and doors go from floor to ceiling. Office buildings are generally designed around a 50/50 male/female ratio, and when the ratio gets way off, you can wind up not having enough restrooms for one or the other, despite being well within the total design occupancy limit.
- jrockway 4y agoI remember that! We had no such luck getting portapotties in the NYC office.
- 2ICofafireteam 4y agoGo to the municipality about occupant loads. Floor area and bathroom capacity are the main factors where I am.
- dsr_ 4y agoToilet stalls can be booked for no more than 15 minutes at a time.
- acchow 4y agoWhen you get there and find yourself with other companies clambering to hire you, with better perks and pay, you may think differently.
- kridsdale1 4y agoJust got hired as a Google L6. When does this happen?
- seanmcdirmid 4y agoAmazon and Meta used to send me weekly emails. But oddly enough they haven't done that in the last couple of months.
- scarface74 4y agoI can’t say the same. I was making $150K in 2020 at 45 years old living in my 4 year old newly built house in the burbs and I completely ignored any chance at working at BigTech if it meant moving. The only reason I gave a recruiter the time of day at the BigTech company I ended up working at is when she suggested I do a pivot into the cloud consulting department (cloud app dev implementations) and said the position was remote. But I would go back to my old comp way before I would be willing to ever be in an office again. I was making “enough” in 2020. Everything else was just gravy.
- VirusNewbie 4y agoLow CoL place? 150k doesn’t support paying for a 4 bedroom in the suburbs of coastal cities…
- scarface74 4y agoMost of the 2.7 million developers in the US don’t live in a coastal area I had my house built in 2016 in “the good school system” in the northern burbs of Atlanta for $335K. It was 3200 square feet 5/3-1/2. There is a reason I didn’t entertain the recruiter until she suggested a permanently remote role.
- reaperducer 4y agoI'd work from a toilet stall for a Google L6 comp band This tends to be an indicator of age, rather than wisdom. When you're young, you value money more than time. When you're old, you value time more than money.
- chrismcb 4y agoThey do. Kirkland was overcrowded. People were working on the stairwells! At least I had my own desk. Working on an open for plan was bad enough. Having to share your desk wouldn't work for me. I think I would prefer"hot seating" over sharing a desk. Almost no reason not to let people work remotely