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> The rules clearly state "no Github" Did you actually read the rules? "Template engine websites, tools, and sites that generate HTML from text, markdown, or

> The rules clearly state "no Github" Did you actually read the rules? "Template engine websites, tools, and sites that generate HTML from text, markdown, or script files, such as Webs, Wix, Weebly, GitHub, Jekyll, and Replit, are NOT permitted." That rule is NOT clear; it implies that Github is forbidden specifically as a "site that generates HTML". There's no reason to interpret it as meaning that you can't even link to a service that happens to provide templating and HTML generation, and which you are actually using only as a SCCS. I would certainly interpret that rule as meaning that you can't use template engines or HTML generators. Which they didn't. I would not interpret it as meaning that you can't use anything provided by a service that ALSO supports templating and code generation. The teacher was a dick.

Dalewyn 4y ago
The rule is "Template engine websites, tools, and sites that generate HTML from text, markdown, or script files ... are NOT permitted." and goes on to mention an inexhaustive list of examples which names Github among others. That is abundantly clear you cannot use Github. If you didn't read the rules, that's ignorance. If you read the rules and knowingly violate them, that's arrogance. If you unintentionally violate the rules but rebuff fair judgments as stupid, that's also arrogance. If you argue pedantics to try and find loopholes, you're an asshole. It boggles the mind why "no Github" is such a controversial point.
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- richbell 4y ago
  > The rule is "Template engine websites, tools, and sites that generate HTML from text, markdown, or script files ... are NOT permitted." and goes on to mention an inexhaustive list of examples which names Github among others. > That is abundantly clear you cannot use Github. This would be like calling someone ignorant and arrogant because they were browsing hackernews at school and a clueless administrator thought it was a criminal website.
  - lelanthran 4y ago
    > This would be like calling someone ignorant and arrogant because they were browsing hackernews at school and a clueless administrator thought it was a criminal website. Well if the school specifically forbid Hackernews, and mentioned it by name in the list of forbidden sites ....
    - richbell 4y ago
      "Sorry, the rules clearly state that you can't browse websites that promote hacking or other criminal behaviour, like hackernews. It doesn't matter that HN isn't actually a criminal website, we must always unquestioningly follow rules."
      - lelanthran 4y ago
        > "Sorry, the rules clearly state that you can't browse websites that promote hacking or other criminal behaviour, like hackernews. It doesn't matter that HN isn't actually a criminal website, we must always unquestioningly follow rules." It's childish and immature, in a competition, to question the rules only after you have been caught breaking them. I never said rules should not be questioned, I said that you should question them before agreeing to them, not after you have been caught.
        richbell 4y ago
        > It's childish and immature, in a competition, to question the rules only after you have been caught breaking them. How is it childish and immature? They were clearly following the spirit of the competition. Furthermore there is no indication anywhere, unless I missed it, that they were cognizant of that specific rule prior to the competition. Perhaps they saw "no template generators" and didn't pay attention to the examples. Even if they specifically knew that GitHub was mentioned, they could have reasonably assumed that the rule specifically referred to its tenplating features and that they were fine.
        4y ago
- Aeolun 4y ago
  > It boggles the mind why "no Github" is such a controversial point. The rule gives a list of examples that are not allowed because they generate HTML. It seems clear to me that you shouldn’t use these tools for HTML generation. This is the spirit of the rule, if not the letter. No reasonable person would interpret this to mean that you cannot use Github to host your source, because it has no bearing on the competition whatsoever.
- machinawhite 4y ago
  And it boggles my mind how some people will blindly follow badly defined rules.

Dalewyn 4y ago

The rule is "Template engine websites, tools, and sites that generate HTML from text, markdown, or script files ... are NOT permitted." and goes on to mention an inexhaustive list of examples which names Github among others. That is abundantly clear you cannot use Github. If you didn't read the rules, that's ignorance. If you read the rules and knowingly violate them, that's arrogance. If you unintentionally violate the rules but rebuff fair judgments as stupid, that's also arrogance. If you argue pedantics to try and find loopholes, you're an asshole. It boggles the mind why "no Github" is such a controversial point.

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richbell 4y ago
> The rule is "Template engine websites, tools, and sites that generate HTML from text, markdown, or script files ... are NOT permitted." and goes on to mention an inexhaustive list of examples which names Github among others. > That is abundantly clear you cannot use Github. This would be like calling someone ignorant and arrogant because they were browsing hackernews at school and a clueless administrator thought it was a criminal website.
- lelanthran 4y ago
  > This would be like calling someone ignorant and arrogant because they were browsing hackernews at school and a clueless administrator thought it was a criminal website. Well if the school specifically forbid Hackernews, and mentioned it by name in the list of forbidden sites ....
  - richbell 4y ago
    "Sorry, the rules clearly state that you can't browse websites that promote hacking or other criminal behaviour, like hackernews. It doesn't matter that HN isn't actually a criminal website, we must always unquestioningly follow rules."
    - lelanthran 4y ago
      > "Sorry, the rules clearly state that you can't browse websites that promote hacking or other criminal behaviour, like hackernews. It doesn't matter that HN isn't actually a criminal website, we must always unquestioningly follow rules." It's childish and immature, in a competition, to question the rules only after you have been caught breaking them. I never said rules should not be questioned, I said that you should question them before agreeing to them, not after you have been caught.
      - richbell 4y ago
        > It's childish and immature, in a competition, to question the rules only after you have been caught breaking them. How is it childish and immature? They were clearly following the spirit of the competition. Furthermore there is no indication anywhere, unless I missed it, that they were cognizant of that specific rule prior to the competition. Perhaps they saw "no template generators" and didn't pay attention to the examples. Even if they specifically knew that GitHub was mentioned, they could have reasonably assumed that the rule specifically referred to its tenplating features and that they were fine.
        4y ago
Aeolun 4y ago
> It boggles the mind why "no Github" is such a controversial point. The rule gives a list of examples that are not allowed because they generate HTML. It seems clear to me that you shouldn’t use these tools for HTML generation. This is the spirit of the rule, if not the letter. No reasonable person would interpret this to mean that you cannot use Github to host your source, because it has no bearing on the competition whatsoever.
machinawhite 4y ago
And it boggles my mind how some people will blindly follow badly defined rules.