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Wouldn't it be cool if apple had some kind of menu called like "display settings" or something, and in that menu there was like a checkbox labeled "use invisibl

Wouldn't it be cool if apple had some kind of menu called like "display settings" or something, and in that menu there was like a checkbox labeled "use invisible scrollbars", and when the checkbox was checked, scrollbars would be invisible, then when it was unchecked, and I know this'll sound crazy, the scollbars would be visible, and people could just make it look the way they like?

eitland 4y ago
Exactly. So much is broken because of misunderstood UX design. Today I was again reminded that many years ago some UX designer thought it would be a great idea to remove back/forward buttons from the context menu in Firefox if I accidentally select some text on a page I visit. No one was asked and when someone filed a bug it was ignored because ux designers had already decided. Result: - a few times every month back/ forward buttons are missing - the look and feel of the context menu changes for no good reason
- mafuy 4y ago
  If I understand you correctly, then I asked for this. Text is often selected by accident, so the top item in the menu would go Back instead of Open in new tab, as that is in the same place in the context menu. The opposite of what I want, and infuriating to use. https://superuser.com/questions/1074338/disable-back-in-chromes-context-menu https://superuser.com/questions/1074338/disable-back-in-chro...
- snowe2010 4y ago
  i'm reminded of this every day. I hate it so much.
  - eitland 4y ago
    It was reported a decade ago. But we are only "users", even if each if us converted 10 or more IE6 users and bothered IT departments to allow Firefox, web sites to write for web standards and not IE etc etc. When they ask for money, we are "valued community members". When we have a question we are just annoying "users" it seems. And the worst part: if you donate to Mozilla it doesn't go to Firefox. It goes to some other project. Because Firefox is a profit center for Mozilla and they are milking it dry year after year and our donations comes on top of that. Still I use Firefox. It is still better for my purposes (large hierarchies of related pages that lives from hours to weeks). And it is not like using Google Chrome would improve the situation. But lately (maybe the last twelve months?) I have started to use LibreWolf too. I use it as my research browser while using Firefox for all logged in work. It feels good, like using Firefox back in the days. And if I can work against both Mozilla and Google simultaneously, maybe I should cut Firefox completely :-]
oefrha 4y ago
Can’t even tell if this is satire, but yes, there happens to be such a setting, System Preferences -> Appearance -> Show scroll bars, with options “automatically based on mouse or trackpad”, “when scrolling”, and “always”. It’s been there since forever. Of course that’s not going to assuage the wrath of non-Apple users like kibwen. Don’t use it if you don’t like it, ffs. As for me, I’m happy to do without bars everywhere.

eitland 4y ago

Exactly. So much is broken because of misunderstood UX design. Today I was again reminded that many years ago some UX designer thought it would be a great idea to remove back/forward buttons from the context menu in Firefox if I accidentally select some text on a page I visit. No one was asked and when someone filed a bug it was ignored because ux designers had already decided. Result: - a few times every month back/ forward buttons are missing - the look and feel of the context menu changes for no good reason

mafuy 4y ago
If I understand you correctly, then I asked for this. Text is often selected by accident, so the top item in the menu would go Back instead of Open in new tab, as that is in the same place in the context menu. The opposite of what I want, and infuriating to use. https://superuser.com/questions/1074338/disable-back-in-chromes-context-menu https://superuser.com/questions/1074338/disable-back-in-chro...
snowe2010 4y ago
i'm reminded of this every day. I hate it so much.
- eitland 4y ago
  It was reported a decade ago. But we are only "users", even if each if us converted 10 or more IE6 users and bothered IT departments to allow Firefox, web sites to write for web standards and not IE etc etc. When they ask for money, we are "valued community members". When we have a question we are just annoying "users" it seems. And the worst part: if you donate to Mozilla it doesn't go to Firefox. It goes to some other project. Because Firefox is a profit center for Mozilla and they are milking it dry year after year and our donations comes on top of that. Still I use Firefox. It is still better for my purposes (large hierarchies of related pages that lives from hours to weeks). And it is not like using Google Chrome would improve the situation. But lately (maybe the last twelve months?) I have started to use LibreWolf too. I use it as my research browser while using Firefox for all logged in work. It feels good, like using Firefox back in the days. And if I can work against both Mozilla and Google simultaneously, maybe I should cut Firefox completely :-]

oefrha 4y ago

Can’t even tell if this is satire, but yes, there happens to be such a setting, System Preferences -> Appearance -> Show scroll bars, with options “automatically based on mouse or trackpad”, “when scrolling”, and “always”. It’s been there since forever. Of course that’s not going to assuage the wrath of non-Apple users like kibwen. Don’t use it if you don’t like it, ffs. As for me, I’m happy to do without bars everywhere.