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The original title is "U.S. food additives banned in Europe: Expert says what Americans eat is "almost certainly" making them sick", which makes a lot more sens

The original title is "U.S. food additives banned in Europe: Expert says what Americans eat is "almost certainly" making them sick", which makes a lot more sense than the submission title.

DougN7 4y ago
My wife has chronic migraines, and we live in the US. We visited Europe last year for 3 weeks and she was migraine free. We figured it had to be the food, and talk about maybe moving…
- linuxftw 4y ago
  It could be the food, it could be indoor air quality, it could be a beauty product, it could be pollen, any number of things. In any case, it might be related to histamines. If your wife has any troubles with an MTHFR mutation, this can cause issues with histamine buildup [1]. I don't endorse this site generally, just a quick reference for the histamine bits. One possible cause of this is taking folic acid (synthetic) rather than folate. This is commonly found in 'enriched' products like breads and cereals, even rice. Europe doesn't enrich products like the US does. This is to say nothing about different pesticides and additives the Europeans use vs the US. Anyway, try avoiding wheat and enriched foods and see if that makes any difference. My wife had a lot of these issues and others, and we've got her sorted out now. 1: https://joannekennedy.com.au/2020/01/03/mthfr-histamine-intolerance/ https://joannekennedy.com.au/2020/01/03/mthfr-histamine-into...
etiennebausson 4y ago
I did wonder how the expert was making people sick.
- throwawaylinux 4y ago
  That said it's probably still inadvisable to season your food with expert.
  - hef19898 4y ago
    Fun fact: Cannibalism in itself isn't illegal in Germany... Just don't ask
    - jon-wood 4y ago
      But isn't the point that you absolutely must ask, since you can only eat somebody if you have their consent?
      - hef19898 4y ago
        Well, apparently all the means of obtaining, they, ugh, ingredients, are more or less illegal and covered by various laws. Voluntary donations so.... Dear me, I shouldn't have brought it up before lunch... I hope there is something vegetarian on the menu today...
        PeterisP 4y ago
        > Apparently all the means of obtaining, they, ugh, ingredients, are more or less illegal and covered by various laws. Amputations are legal and not that rare, so there are some means.. Hhere's a relevant example of a part of a leg begin eaten - https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8p5xlj/hi_all_i_am_a_man_who_ate_a_portion_of_his_own/ https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8p5xlj/hi_all_i_am_a_...
      - noduerme 4y ago
        consent has been defined different ways at different times in Germany. technically when hansel and gretel checked into their airbnb in the forest, they consented to being shoved into an oven if they spilled breadcrumbs. It was all in the contract.
    - HeckFeck 4y ago
      Suddenly this joke from the IT Crowd makes more sense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOE-q20RcDM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOE-q20RcDM
- Silverback_VII 4y ago
  Well one possible reason why Americans report better health and energy levels after switching to a lowcarb, no seed oil, paleo or whatever diet is that seed products in the US are contaminated with various chemicals. Thus the statement of these experts may be true to some extent.
  - noduerme 4y ago
    This is an unhelpful conflation between several different health issues, and a wide range of fashionable paranoias. The article isn't to do with pesticide sprayed on grain crops, nor with seed products, nor with the value of "paleo" diets. It's simply about additives in bread. It's irresponsible to mash all those issues together, because glyphosate is a likely carcinogen and needs to be dealt with separately; hydrogenated seed oils are likely carcinogens and need to be dealt with separately too. But given a noncarcinogenic grain supply, there's this other issue of adding magical chemicals to everyday bread or packaged foods. That's what this is about, and trying to make sweeping statements about half a dozen other things that are harmful actually helps make the case that this is less important to regulate.
    - Madmallard 4y ago
      Unregulated chemicals that humans did not evolve to tolerate are nigh certainly causing loss of physiologic integrity.
  - hombre_fatal 4y ago
    Or they’re just switching away from worse, non deliberate diets and then misunderstanding which changes were the ones that mattered while buying into the popular social media trend of blaming “seed oils” for everything.
input_sh 4y ago
That's >80 characters title limit, so some editorializing was necessary.
- sh4rks 4y ago
  An extra colon would have done the job Expert: "Almost certainly making them sick"
  - drunkonvinyl 4y ago
    That extra colon could have prevented people from getting sick as well.
- easygenes 4y ago
  A clearer suggestion: US food additives banned in EU. Expert says "almost certainly" making US sick
  - nabla9 4y ago
    thanks. Fixed.

The original title is "U.S. food additives banned in Europe: Expert says what Americans eat is "almost certainly" making them sick", which makes a lot more sense than the submission title.

DougN7 4y ago

My wife has chronic migraines, and we live in the US. We visited Europe last year for 3 weeks and she was migraine free. We figured it had to be the food, and talk about maybe moving…

linuxftw 4y ago
It could be the food, it could be indoor air quality, it could be a beauty product, it could be pollen, any number of things. In any case, it might be related to histamines. If your wife has any troubles with an MTHFR mutation, this can cause issues with histamine buildup [1]. I don't endorse this site generally, just a quick reference for the histamine bits. One possible cause of this is taking folic acid (synthetic) rather than folate. This is commonly found in 'enriched' products like breads and cereals, even rice. Europe doesn't enrich products like the US does. This is to say nothing about different pesticides and additives the Europeans use vs the US. Anyway, try avoiding wheat and enriched foods and see if that makes any difference. My wife had a lot of these issues and others, and we've got her sorted out now. 1: https://joannekennedy.com.au/2020/01/03/mthfr-histamine-intolerance/ https://joannekennedy.com.au/2020/01/03/mthfr-histamine-into...

etiennebausson 4y ago

I did wonder how the expert was making people sick.

throwawaylinux 4y ago
That said it's probably still inadvisable to season your food with expert.
- hef19898 4y ago
  Fun fact: Cannibalism in itself isn't illegal in Germany... Just don't ask
  - jon-wood 4y ago
    But isn't the point that you absolutely must ask, since you can only eat somebody if you have their consent?
    - hef19898 4y ago
      Well, apparently all the means of obtaining, they, ugh, ingredients, are more or less illegal and covered by various laws. Voluntary donations so.... Dear me, I shouldn't have brought it up before lunch... I hope there is something vegetarian on the menu today...
      - PeterisP 4y ago
        > Apparently all the means of obtaining, they, ugh, ingredients, are more or less illegal and covered by various laws. Amputations are legal and not that rare, so there are some means.. Hhere's a relevant example of a part of a leg begin eaten - https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8p5xlj/hi_all_i_am_a_man_who_ate_a_portion_of_his_own/ https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8p5xlj/hi_all_i_am_a_...
    - noduerme 4y ago
      consent has been defined different ways at different times in Germany. technically when hansel and gretel checked into their airbnb in the forest, they consented to being shoved into an oven if they spilled breadcrumbs. It was all in the contract.
  - HeckFeck 4y ago
    Suddenly this joke from the IT Crowd makes more sense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOE-q20RcDM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOE-q20RcDM
Silverback_VII 4y ago
Well one possible reason why Americans report better health and energy levels after switching to a lowcarb, no seed oil, paleo or whatever diet is that seed products in the US are contaminated with various chemicals. Thus the statement of these experts may be true to some extent.
- noduerme 4y ago
  This is an unhelpful conflation between several different health issues, and a wide range of fashionable paranoias. The article isn't to do with pesticide sprayed on grain crops, nor with seed products, nor with the value of "paleo" diets. It's simply about additives in bread. It's irresponsible to mash all those issues together, because glyphosate is a likely carcinogen and needs to be dealt with separately; hydrogenated seed oils are likely carcinogens and need to be dealt with separately too. But given a noncarcinogenic grain supply, there's this other issue of adding magical chemicals to everyday bread or packaged foods. That's what this is about, and trying to make sweeping statements about half a dozen other things that are harmful actually helps make the case that this is less important to regulate.
  - Madmallard 4y ago
    Unregulated chemicals that humans did not evolve to tolerate are nigh certainly causing loss of physiologic integrity.
- hombre_fatal 4y ago
  Or they’re just switching away from worse, non deliberate diets and then misunderstanding which changes were the ones that mattered while buying into the popular social media trend of blaming “seed oils” for everything.

input_sh 4y ago

That's >80 characters title limit, so some editorializing was necessary.

sh4rks 4y ago
An extra colon would have done the job Expert: "Almost certainly making them sick"
- drunkonvinyl 4y ago
  That extra colon could have prevented people from getting sick as well.
easygenes 4y ago
A clearer suggestion: US food additives banned in EU. Expert says "almost certainly" making US sick
- nabla9 4y ago
  thanks. Fixed.