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There I was thinking they cured diabetes :-(

by zmmmmm 4y ago

romeros 4y ago
yeah me too. :-( dang should change the clickbaity title.
- coldtea 4y ago
  No one involved in typography, typesetting, DTP, and graphic design (the target audience) would even conflate this title with diabetes... The website is called "typenetwork" even. Not everything is "clickbait"...
  - frogulis 4y ago
    "type" is a very common and overloaded word. Consider its meaning for designers, programmers, taxonomy, keyboard enthusiasts, diabetics, Pokemon fans, and so on. The website being called "typenetwork" doesn't clarify much to me. If I had to pick a topic to associate "type 1" with, it would be diabetes, personally. You're absolutely right that it's not clickbait, but it is confusing, considering we're not on a website focused on typography or graphic design.
    - coldtea 4y ago
      >"type" is a very common and overloaded word Yes. Just not in the audience of that publication. You're just not their type of reader (pun intended)
      - Sharlin 4y ago
        The point is that the HN title should be changed in this case, even though the normal advice is to keep the original title.
      - ptero 4y ago
        The request was not to change the title on the linked website, but have a HN title reflect the clarification that is important for many HN readers.
  - pastage 4y ago
    My thoughts went; diabetes.. network provider. I have worked extensively with PS Type 1 fonts. The title is unnecessary short, even if this was a PostScript working group.
  - moomin 4y ago
    Which made me think it was going to be about Haskell.
  - BongoMcCat 4y ago
    I clicked the comments here just to find out what type 1 means, I saw that the site was called "typenetwork", and that didn't mean anything to me. It might not be clickbait as in it is not intentionally misleading, but it still is a very confusing title. Not everyone that visits this site is a typography expert...
zimpenfish 4y ago
I mean, I'm pretty sure you'd have heard about that from about a million other outlets before seeing it here, no? It'd be Nobel Prize winning level stuff.
spirit557 4y ago
Well, type 2 is definitely curable and reversible. type 1 diabetes..... yea no.
- RHSeeger 4y ago
  Type 2 can be managed, mitigated, and treated; but it cannot (currently) be cured. The actions taken may prevent all the symptoms, but the underlying condition is still there.
  - spirit557 4y ago
    Hyperinsulinemia is reversible. You reverse insulin resistance by stopping the constant, excessive stimulation of insulin. That's the disease, that's what does the most damage over the longest period of time years and years before an a1c exceeds the thresholds on a test. Once people restore their sensitivity to insulin and they change their diet, eating habits, they don't have type 2 diabetes. They have normal a1c, they have normal Kraft tests. They don't need medical intervention. They don't need drugs anymore. They will have normal a1c and healthy glucose metabolism proved by advanced lipid panels. We've known since the Kraft tests in the 1970s that type 2 diabetes can be predicted atleast 5-10 years before an elevated a1c would allow a doctor to diagnose a patient as type 2 diabetes. Insulin resistance is accurately measurable for decades now. Type 2 diabetes is curable.
    - RHSeeger 4y ago
      All of the things you've stated can also be explained as it being mitigated / in remission. It's no longer effecting the person, but that doesn't mean they no longer have the "condition". To quote diabetic.org [1] > So, can type 2 diabetes be cured? The answer is no. Type 2 diabetes is a chronic medical condition with no cure. > Instead, it’s best to look at it as a manageable condition. For some people, remission is possible. [1] https://www.diabetic.org/type-2-diabetes-can-it-be-cured/ https://www.diabetic.org/type-2-diabetes-can-it-be-cured/
      - spirit557 4y ago

There I was thinking they cured diabetes :-(

by zmmmmm 4y ago

There I was thinking they cured diabetes :-(

romeros 4y ago

yeah me too. :-( dang should change the clickbaity title.

coldtea 4y ago
No one involved in typography, typesetting, DTP, and graphic design (the target audience) would even conflate this title with diabetes... The website is called "typenetwork" even. Not everything is "clickbait"...
- frogulis 4y ago
  "type" is a very common and overloaded word. Consider its meaning for designers, programmers, taxonomy, keyboard enthusiasts, diabetics, Pokemon fans, and so on. The website being called "typenetwork" doesn't clarify much to me. If I had to pick a topic to associate "type 1" with, it would be diabetes, personally. You're absolutely right that it's not clickbait, but it is confusing, considering we're not on a website focused on typography or graphic design.
  - coldtea 4y ago
    >"type" is a very common and overloaded word Yes. Just not in the audience of that publication. You're just not their type of reader (pun intended)
    - Sharlin 4y ago
      The point is that the HN title should be changed in this case, even though the normal advice is to keep the original title.
    - ptero 4y ago
      The request was not to change the title on the linked website, but have a HN title reflect the clarification that is important for many HN readers.
- pastage 4y ago
  My thoughts went; diabetes.. network provider. I have worked extensively with PS Type 1 fonts. The title is unnecessary short, even if this was a PostScript working group.
- moomin 4y ago
  Which made me think it was going to be about Haskell.
- BongoMcCat 4y ago
  I clicked the comments here just to find out what type 1 means, I saw that the site was called "typenetwork", and that didn't mean anything to me. It might not be clickbait as in it is not intentionally misleading, but it still is a very confusing title. Not everyone that visits this site is a typography expert...

zimpenfish 4y ago

I mean, I'm pretty sure you'd have heard about that from about a million other outlets before seeing it here, no? It'd be Nobel Prize winning level stuff.

spirit557 4y ago

Well, type 2 is definitely curable and reversible. type 1 diabetes..... yea no.

RHSeeger 4y ago
Type 2 can be managed, mitigated, and treated; but it cannot (currently) be cured. The actions taken may prevent all the symptoms, but the underlying condition is still there.
- spirit557 4y ago
  Hyperinsulinemia is reversible. You reverse insulin resistance by stopping the constant, excessive stimulation of insulin. That's the disease, that's what does the most damage over the longest period of time years and years before an a1c exceeds the thresholds on a test. Once people restore their sensitivity to insulin and they change their diet, eating habits, they don't have type 2 diabetes. They have normal a1c, they have normal Kraft tests. They don't need medical intervention. They don't need drugs anymore. They will have normal a1c and healthy glucose metabolism proved by advanced lipid panels. We've known since the Kraft tests in the 1970s that type 2 diabetes can be predicted atleast 5-10 years before an elevated a1c would allow a doctor to diagnose a patient as type 2 diabetes. Insulin resistance is accurately measurable for decades now. Type 2 diabetes is curable.
  - RHSeeger 4y ago
    All of the things you've stated can also be explained as it being mitigated / in remission. It's no longer effecting the person, but that doesn't mean they no longer have the "condition". To quote diabetic.org [1] > So, can type 2 diabetes be cured? The answer is no. Type 2 diabetes is a chronic medical condition with no cure. > Instead, it’s best to look at it as a manageable condition. For some people, remission is possible. [1] https://www.diabetic.org/type-2-diabetes-can-it-be-cured/ https://www.diabetic.org/type-2-diabetes-can-it-be-cured/
    - spirit557 4y ago