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Counterexample: Started going to bed at a good time in college, gave me a reason to skip going out, and my brain performance unlocked into better focus, learnin

by robg 4y ago

Counterexample: Started going to bed at a good time in college, gave me a reason to skip going out, and my brain performance unlocked into better focus, learning, and memory. Bonus was the classes were smaller.

inglor_cz 4y ago
People are diverse, but I don't think that any college actually cares about the early bird / night owl sort of diversity. That just gets steamrolled.
krageon 4y ago
"Go to bed at a good time" is not a good solution for someone whose body structurally just doesn't work that way. It'll always be worse than going to bed according to what is natural for you.
- raspberry1337 4y ago
  There's no "natural" rhytm that says that some people have to be late morning persons, the only provable circadian rhythm is in accordance with morning light. There's nothing that forces people to sleep between 1 am and 9 am UDM time, it's all adapment. This is the equivalent of modern fat americans claiming their body just structurally don't work with veggies.
  - ilyt 4y ago
    But changing that adaptation is super had. My internal clock doesn't go backwards, the only way for me to wake up earlier is go the other way round the clock and that takes weeks. Then one staying late and I'd have to do it all over again
  - gpvos 4y ago
    What's UDM?
  - gpvos 4y ago
    What does the abbreviation UDM stand for?
- WaterSupreme 4y ago
  So every other animal on earth falls into a rythmic cycle but we don't ? I mean you have free will of course. You can choose to make your lifestyle be waking up at 12am and falling asleep at 4am. That choice should be anyone's to take, just like smoking, drinking, and anything else. However, we should give out a default guideline of what an average day cycle is so people can cling on to that when they disregulate and things go south. I will assert - the sun rises at 6-8am, and our society should align with that. It also sets at 5-8pm. We should also align with that. There will be outliers, and pleasing everyone is not an option. But we need to take in account the natural cycles of our environment. As that is the one thing we certainly cannot influence.
  - YokoZar 4y ago
    I don't know who needs to be told this, but human circadian rhythms vary considerably from person to person. Some are very early, some are as late as a literal owl. Telling them to follow the sun will be about as successful as telling an actual owl that it's sleeping at the winyg time and needs to hunt during the day like the rest of the birds.
    - Akronymus 4y ago
      Theres also quite a few cases of people who don't naturally fall into a 24 hr rhythm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-24-hour_sleep%E2%80%93wake_disorder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-24-hour_sleep%E2%80%93wake...
  - ryanjshaw 4y ago
    > So every other animal on earth falls into a rythmic cycle but we don't ? Human brains, lifespans and experiences are mind bogglingly more sophisticated than the next animal on the list. There is nothing in the animal kingdom remotely as complex as our civilization on this planet, why would you generalise like this?
danwee 4y ago
What what's "a good time"? If you have lectures at 8:00am, explore this scenario: - let's say it takes 30min from your home to the university - let's say it takes you 15min to get ready (including shower) - let's say it takes you 30min to have breakfast (10min preparation + 20min eating) That means you need to leave home at least at 6:45. To sleep at least 8.5h, you'll need to go to bed at at least 10:15pm. I don't know you, but when I was younger, at 10:15pm I was feeling full of energy and couldnt go to sleep just like that.
- mhh__ 4y ago
  10:15 is also the kind of time when everyone else has STFU and I can code/study in peace
- toxik 4y ago
  Skip breakfast, sleep less. You don’t have 8am classes every day. You can easily get to bed by 22:30 and sleep more than enough. If your circadian rhythm is set to sleep at 2am, an 8am class is going to be hell no matter what you do.
  - withinboredom 4y ago
    OR join the military and learn to sleep on-demand anywhere at any time while being able to stay awake through the most boring lectures. It's a great and amazing skill. I'm not sure it is worth the learning experience.
- balderdash 4y ago
  Two questions though, had you exercised and when did you get up? I never like getting up early, but if I got up at ~7am, exercised, didn’t eat like crap/drink, going to bed ~10:15 was not hard at all
- anthomtb 4y ago
  > sleep at least 8.5h Good luck find a university student with that type of sleep hygiene. I was the most sleep vigilante of my group and almost never slept more than 8 hours. 7 was my minimum, anything less led to migraines.
acomjean 4y ago
Early morning classes were helpful for me. I had 8am classes 3 times a week. After I’d get breakfast and study for 2 hours after since I was on campus and there was nothing going on at that hour to distract. I got a lot done in those morning hours. You have a fair amount of flexibility as a student. I had a roommate who napped from 4-4:30 every day.

by robg 4y ago

inglor_cz 4y ago

People are diverse, but I don't think that any college actually cares about the early bird / night owl sort of diversity. That just gets steamrolled.

krageon 4y ago

"Go to bed at a good time" is not a good solution for someone whose body structurally just doesn't work that way. It'll always be worse than going to bed according to what is natural for you.

raspberry1337 4y ago
There's no "natural" rhytm that says that some people have to be late morning persons, the only provable circadian rhythm is in accordance with morning light. There's nothing that forces people to sleep between 1 am and 9 am UDM time, it's all adapment. This is the equivalent of modern fat americans claiming their body just structurally don't work with veggies.
- ilyt 4y ago
  But changing that adaptation is super had. My internal clock doesn't go backwards, the only way for me to wake up earlier is go the other way round the clock and that takes weeks. Then one staying late and I'd have to do it all over again
- gpvos 4y ago
  What's UDM?
- gpvos 4y ago
  What does the abbreviation UDM stand for?
WaterSupreme 4y ago
So every other animal on earth falls into a rythmic cycle but we don't ? I mean you have free will of course. You can choose to make your lifestyle be waking up at 12am and falling asleep at 4am. That choice should be anyone's to take, just like smoking, drinking, and anything else. However, we should give out a default guideline of what an average day cycle is so people can cling on to that when they disregulate and things go south. I will assert - the sun rises at 6-8am, and our society should align with that. It also sets at 5-8pm. We should also align with that. There will be outliers, and pleasing everyone is not an option. But we need to take in account the natural cycles of our environment. As that is the one thing we certainly cannot influence.
- YokoZar 4y ago
  I don't know who needs to be told this, but human circadian rhythms vary considerably from person to person. Some are very early, some are as late as a literal owl. Telling them to follow the sun will be about as successful as telling an actual owl that it's sleeping at the winyg time and needs to hunt during the day like the rest of the birds.
  - Akronymus 4y ago
    Theres also quite a few cases of people who don't naturally fall into a 24 hr rhythm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-24-hour_sleep%E2%80%93wake_disorder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-24-hour_sleep%E2%80%93wake...
- ryanjshaw 4y ago
  > So every other animal on earth falls into a rythmic cycle but we don't ? Human brains, lifespans and experiences are mind bogglingly more sophisticated than the next animal on the list. There is nothing in the animal kingdom remotely as complex as our civilization on this planet, why would you generalise like this?

danwee 4y ago

What what's "a good time"? If you have lectures at 8:00am, explore this scenario: - let's say it takes 30min from your home to the university - let's say it takes you 15min to get ready (including shower) - let's say it takes you 30min to have breakfast (10min preparation + 20min eating) That means you need to leave home at least at 6:45. To sleep at least 8.5h, you'll need to go to bed at at least 10:15pm. I don't know you, but when I was younger, at 10:15pm I was feeling full of energy and couldnt go to sleep just like that.

mhh__ 4y ago
10:15 is also the kind of time when everyone else has STFU and I can code/study in peace
toxik 4y ago
Skip breakfast, sleep less. You don’t have 8am classes every day. You can easily get to bed by 22:30 and sleep more than enough. If your circadian rhythm is set to sleep at 2am, an 8am class is going to be hell no matter what you do.
- withinboredom 4y ago
  OR join the military and learn to sleep on-demand anywhere at any time while being able to stay awake through the most boring lectures. It's a great and amazing skill. I'm not sure it is worth the learning experience.
balderdash 4y ago
Two questions though, had you exercised and when did you get up? I never like getting up early, but if I got up at ~7am, exercised, didn’t eat like crap/drink, going to bed ~10:15 was not hard at all
anthomtb 4y ago
> sleep at least 8.5h Good luck find a university student with that type of sleep hygiene. I was the most sleep vigilante of my group and almost never slept more than 8 hours. 7 was my minimum, anything less led to migraines.

acomjean 4y ago

Early morning classes were helpful for me. I had 8am classes 3 times a week. After I’d get breakfast and study for 2 hours after since I was on campus and there was nothing going on at that hour to distract. I got a lot done in those morning hours. You have a fair amount of flexibility as a student. I had a roommate who napped from 4-4:30 every day.