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Neil Clarke said about "I worry that this path will lead to an increased number of barriers for new and international authors". So, brainstorming potential solu

Neil Clarke said about "I worry that this path will lead to an increased number of barriers for new and international authors". So, brainstorming potential solutions, where the goal isn't "to stop AI content writers" as much as ensure that writers are have "to do the actual work". What does proof-of-work look like for fiction? Uploading drafts, ensuring "adequate" time between them and "adequate" revisions? What else would work?

andrewflnr 4y ago
Require a summary and/or discussion of the creative process in a cover letter. Similar to requiring software candidates to be able to intelligently discuss what's on their GitHub.
- thom 4y ago
  That too will be written by ChatGPT.
  - MichaelZuo 4y ago
    To work it will likely have to be attached to a unique identity in costly ways. i.e. some form of ID verification such as Driver's license/Utility Bills/Bank statement/passport/etc...
    - krageon 4y ago
      This is discrimination against poverty and location, which is what the company under discussion is trying to avoid.
      - MichaelZuo 4y ago
        So? There are no better alternatives at the moment.
        krageon 4y ago
        There's no point to them then, is what I'm saying.
        MichaelZuo 4y ago
        There's no point to having a Clarksworld that accepts submissions? I don't see how it wouldn't be desirable.
  - andrewflnr 4y ago
    They'll try, for sure, but I suspect it will be easier to detect at that small scale, especially if it doesn't line up with the piece itself.
kayamon 4y ago
The only way to judge a science fiction story is simply "did it make you think".
galleywest200 4y ago
Will I need to use a git commit after every sentence? I write my essays in plain text that is backed up automatically by git once per day with a script and a generic message. There is no say to prove I wrote stuff and did not paste in ChatGPT output.
- bob1029 4y ago
  What if the author is simply required to compose all drafts in some special web editor that streams events to the server? Multiple phases of approval? Statistical analysis of time domain signals? Proof of work could just mean "do your work here".
  - richardjam73 4y ago
    Sounds like creating bureaucracy just for no reason. Shouldn't tech be about making things easier not harder.
    - bob1029 4y ago
      > for no reason. The reason is the title of this forum post. Proof of work is precisely what we are seeking here. There is no magic wand solution to this problem.

andrewflnr 4y ago

Require a summary and/or discussion of the creative process in a cover letter. Similar to requiring software candidates to be able to intelligently discuss what's on their GitHub.

thom 4y ago
That too will be written by ChatGPT.
- MichaelZuo 4y ago
  To work it will likely have to be attached to a unique identity in costly ways. i.e. some form of ID verification such as Driver's license/Utility Bills/Bank statement/passport/etc...
  - krageon 4y ago
    This is discrimination against poverty and location, which is what the company under discussion is trying to avoid.
    - MichaelZuo 4y ago
      So? There are no better alternatives at the moment.
      - krageon 4y ago
        There's no point to them then, is what I'm saying.
        MichaelZuo 4y ago
        There's no point to having a Clarksworld that accepts submissions? I don't see how it wouldn't be desirable.
- andrewflnr 4y ago
  They'll try, for sure, but I suspect it will be easier to detect at that small scale, especially if it doesn't line up with the piece itself.

kayamon 4y ago

The only way to judge a science fiction story is simply "did it make you think".

galleywest200 4y ago

Will I need to use a git commit after every sentence? I write my essays in plain text that is backed up automatically by git once per day with a script and a generic message. There is no say to prove I wrote stuff and did not paste in ChatGPT output.

bob1029 4y ago
What if the author is simply required to compose all drafts in some special web editor that streams events to the server? Multiple phases of approval? Statistical analysis of time domain signals? Proof of work could just mean "do your work here".
- richardjam73 4y ago
  Sounds like creating bureaucracy just for no reason. Shouldn't tech be about making things easier not harder.
  - bob1029 4y ago
    > for no reason. The reason is the title of this forum post. Proof of work is precisely what we are seeking here. There is no magic wand solution to this problem.