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Americans applying for 'golden passports' more than any other nationality

19 points by Ozzie_osman 4y ago

seymourhersh 4y ago
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- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  The story is that they want out, not the wealth that enables buying citizenship.
  - seymourhersh 4y ago
    Not as far as I can see. The the article doesn’t say anything about people ‘wanting out’. It discusses the controversial practice of wealth buying citizenship. This is the only reason given in the article: > many of the millionaires and billionaires who want this kind of passport are trying to escape crimes" such as tax evasion and money laundering.
    - toomuchtodo 4y ago
      A golden visa doesn’t prevent extradition nor US tax filing or payment requirements (unless you’re renouncing US citizenship and paying your exit tax due).
      - seymourhersh 4y ago
        So what? That’s what the article is about, not the narrative of “people wanting out”. You’ve added that. If you want to write a piece about that, go right ahead. It’s just nothing to do with this article.
- kadoban 4y ago
  > The program had previously by dominated by the Chinese and the Russians, data shows, but a 447 percent jump in inquiries from 2019 has helped American nationals take the top spot. Americans had wealth in 2019 too. That's not what is driving the change.
  - seymourhersh 4y ago
    If the programs are being phased out, rich people just want to exploit them while they still can.
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jschveibinz 4y ago
Top 10 Countries with the Highest Number of Foreign-Born Residents (Immigrants) - United Nations 2020: United States — 50.6 million Germany — 15.8 million Saudi Arabia — 13.5 million Russia — 11.6 million United Kingdom — 9.4 million United Arab Emirates — 8.7 million France — 8.5 million Canada — 8.0 million Australia — 7.7 million Spain — 6.8 million https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigration-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigrati...
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  Just so you know, as a percent of population that’s: US: 15.2%, Germany: 19.0%, Saudi Arabia: 37.6%, Russia: 8.1%, UK: 13.9%, UAE: 92.8%, France: 12.5%, Canada: 20.9%, Australia: 30.0%, Spain: 14.3%
  - codeddesign 4y ago
    According to the Migration Policy Institute, in 2019, approximately 30% of the population had arrived in the country within the past 10 years. Considering the green card wait has increased 400% in the past 2 years, it’s safe to assume this number is dramatically higher now.
    - dragonwriter 4y ago
      > Considering the green card wait has increased 400% in the past 2 years, it’s safe to assume this number is dramatically higher now. No, its not; actual volume of immigration has been flat. Wait times are a measure of the degree to which per category and per country quotas are misaligned with demand, not an indicator of immigration volume.
      - codeddesign 4y ago
        Do you have a source to backup your claim? USCIS is telling me different. There is currently a 4-year wait on secondary green cards, in which 2021 there was a 2 year wait. According to the Center of iImmigration Studies, immigration has doubled since Biden took office: https://cis.org/Report/ForeignBorn-Population-Hits-Nearly-48-Million-September-2022 https://cis.org/Report/ForeignBorn-Population-Hits-Nearly-48...

19 points by Ozzie_osman 4y ago

seymourhersh 4y ago

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toomuchtodo 4y ago
The story is that they want out, not the wealth that enables buying citizenship.
- seymourhersh 4y ago
  Not as far as I can see. The the article doesn’t say anything about people ‘wanting out’. It discusses the controversial practice of wealth buying citizenship. This is the only reason given in the article: > many of the millionaires and billionaires who want this kind of passport are trying to escape crimes" such as tax evasion and money laundering.
  - toomuchtodo 4y ago
    A golden visa doesn’t prevent extradition nor US tax filing or payment requirements (unless you’re renouncing US citizenship and paying your exit tax due).
    - seymourhersh 4y ago
      So what? That’s what the article is about, not the narrative of “people wanting out”. You’ve added that. If you want to write a piece about that, go right ahead. It’s just nothing to do with this article.
kadoban 4y ago
> The program had previously by dominated by the Chinese and the Russians, data shows, but a 447 percent jump in inquiries from 2019 has helped American nationals take the top spot. Americans had wealth in 2019 too. That's not what is driving the change.
- seymourhersh 4y ago
  If the programs are being phased out, rich people just want to exploit them while they still can.
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jschveibinz 4y ago

Top 10 Countries with the Highest Number of Foreign-Born Residents (Immigrants) - United Nations 2020: United States — 50.6 million Germany — 15.8 million Saudi Arabia — 13.5 million Russia — 11.6 million United Kingdom — 9.4 million United Arab Emirates — 8.7 million France — 8.5 million Canada — 8.0 million Australia — 7.7 million Spain — 6.8 million https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigration-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigrati...

dragonwriter 4y ago
Just so you know, as a percent of population that’s: US: 15.2%, Germany: 19.0%, Saudi Arabia: 37.6%, Russia: 8.1%, UK: 13.9%, UAE: 92.8%, France: 12.5%, Canada: 20.9%, Australia: 30.0%, Spain: 14.3%
- codeddesign 4y ago
  According to the Migration Policy Institute, in 2019, approximately 30% of the population had arrived in the country within the past 10 years. Considering the green card wait has increased 400% in the past 2 years, it’s safe to assume this number is dramatically higher now.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > Considering the green card wait has increased 400% in the past 2 years, it’s safe to assume this number is dramatically higher now. No, its not; actual volume of immigration has been flat. Wait times are a measure of the degree to which per category and per country quotas are misaligned with demand, not an indicator of immigration volume.
    - codeddesign 4y ago
      Do you have a source to backup your claim? USCIS is telling me different. There is currently a 4-year wait on secondary green cards, in which 2021 there was a 2 year wait. According to the Center of iImmigration Studies, immigration has doubled since Biden took office: https://cis.org/Report/ForeignBorn-Population-Hits-Nearly-48-Million-September-2022 https://cis.org/Report/ForeignBorn-Population-Hits-Nearly-48...