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I’ll also note I’ve been following him and it’s sad to see how much many pointless drive by objections he seems to get from non-maintainers when trying to upstr

by MBCook 4y ago

I’ll also note I’ve been following him and it’s sad to see how much many pointless drive by objections he seems to get from non-maintainers when trying to upstream code.

friendlyHornet 4y ago
Tbh after I maintained a medium sized open-source project for a while, I became a real misanthrope and gave it up. I decided my life is worth too much to me to waste it on random ingrates who sent me actual death threats for not doing what they want. Why would I put up with this? Though tbf, the number of wonderful people was much greater, but I just couldn't take the negativity i was getting from a not insignificant minority of manchildren who have probably never heard the word "no" from mommy and daddy while growing up
- Gigachad 4y ago
  At least he does seem to be getting paid via patreon subscribers.
- aumerle 4y ago
  There's a very vocal group of such people, sadly. Thank you for saying no to them as long as you did. Makes it a little less likely the rest of us will encounter them in our open source projects.
  - darthrupert 4y ago
    I suppose here's a reason why many people choose to contribute to private companies instead -- better compensation, more respect. Only thing that's better in public projects is the knowledge that you might be doing something good for everyone.
    - froggit 4y ago
      Those 2 things aren't mutually exclusive.
- paulrouget 4y ago
  100%. I worked on a very popular Open Source project, and for years those "manchildren" were making my blood boil, borderline made me depressed, and it was clearly turning me into a bitter and angry person. To a point I decided to just get off all social medias, start ignoring bug reports, and isolate my work to less public-facing parts of the codebase. The day I got off bugzilla and moved to a standalone project was a massive relief.
- mixmastamyk 4y ago
  Where was it hosted? And was there not a "block" button?
izacus 4y ago
On the other hand, I also had to stop following him because he's in a middle of SOME social media drama pretty much constantly and not all of it is externally inflicted and not all of his rants/conflicts are the fault of kernel maintainers or other people. It seriously reminds me of hackerspace/opensource drama we've been part of in my college years and by now I've kinda grown up enough to find it tiring and remember that you need two parties to cause it.
neonsunset 4y ago
Reading his mastodon feed, Marcan may be not so different from the maintainers he claims are the issue. Imagine being a maintainer of a specific section of the code, only to receive an email from contributor stating that you must move to github from mailing list and if you disagree then "tough luck" and it's your fault.

by MBCook 4y ago

I’ll also note I’ve been following him and it’s sad to see how much many pointless drive by objections he seems to get from non-maintainers when trying to upstream code.

friendlyHornet 4y ago

Tbh after I maintained a medium sized open-source project for a while, I became a real misanthrope and gave it up. I decided my life is worth too much to me to waste it on random ingrates who sent me actual death threats for not doing what they want. Why would I put up with this? Though tbf, the number of wonderful people was much greater, but I just couldn't take the negativity i was getting from a not insignificant minority of manchildren who have probably never heard the word "no" from mommy and daddy while growing up

Gigachad 4y ago
At least he does seem to be getting paid via patreon subscribers.
aumerle 4y ago
There's a very vocal group of such people, sadly. Thank you for saying no to them as long as you did. Makes it a little less likely the rest of us will encounter them in our open source projects.
- darthrupert 4y ago
  I suppose here's a reason why many people choose to contribute to private companies instead -- better compensation, more respect. Only thing that's better in public projects is the knowledge that you might be doing something good for everyone.
  - froggit 4y ago
    Those 2 things aren't mutually exclusive.
paulrouget 4y ago
100%. I worked on a very popular Open Source project, and for years those "manchildren" were making my blood boil, borderline made me depressed, and it was clearly turning me into a bitter and angry person. To a point I decided to just get off all social medias, start ignoring bug reports, and isolate my work to less public-facing parts of the codebase. The day I got off bugzilla and moved to a standalone project was a massive relief.
mixmastamyk 4y ago
Where was it hosted? And was there not a "block" button?

izacus 4y ago

On the other hand, I also had to stop following him because he's in a middle of SOME social media drama pretty much constantly and not all of it is externally inflicted and not all of his rants/conflicts are the fault of kernel maintainers or other people. It seriously reminds me of hackerspace/opensource drama we've been part of in my college years and by now I've kinda grown up enough to find it tiring and remember that you need two parties to cause it.

neonsunset 4y ago

Reading his mastodon feed, Marcan may be not so different from the maintainers he claims are the issue. Imagine being a maintainer of a specific section of the code, only to receive an email from contributor stating that you must move to github from mailing list and if you disagree then "tough luck" and it's your fault.