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>> How much does continuously streaming 4k bandwidth alone cost over the life of a GPU? Doesn't matter - the bandwidth used by an average user costs a small po

>> How much does continuously streaming 4k bandwidth alone cost over the life of a GPU? Doesn't matter - the bandwidth used by an average user costs a small portion of a montly subscription fee. High prices for GPUs may be a good way to get more subsribers, who will pay a lot more money over the years.

ClumsyPilot 4y ago
> Doesn't matter - the bandwidth used by an average user costs a small portion of a montly subscription fee. Citation needed. > High prices for GPUs may be a good way to get more subsribers, who will pay a lot more money over the years. And they set price of both markets. Sounds like market manipulation to me.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  You can go into tons of datacenters and pay 10-20 cents per mbps in bulk. If we're using almost 40Mbps for each GPU then we're looking at $4-$8 of bandwidth. And this simplified scenario has 10 users per GPU on the 4k tier, I guess? That's $200 in subscription fees. And that's significantly understating the number of subscribers per GPU, if we're trying to pay off $16000.
  - leereeves 4y ago
    Ten subscribers per GPU means an average player can play at most 17 hours per week, even if the service can somehow load balance across time zones without unacceptable lag. Having significantly more subscribers wouldn't give each player much time to play.
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      Yeah that was the scenario laid out, that an average player with a $1600 GPU would use it 10% of the time. Whatever you think the real numbers are, you probably need about half a subscription to pay the bandwidth. I'd be more concerned about the electricity bill, since you'd be in the ballpark of 200kWh a month.
      - ClumsyPilot 4y ago
        > average player with a $1600 GPU would use it 10% of the time. Average driver uses car <5% of the time, but you can't replace 20 cars with 1 uber if everyone needs to get to work at 9 am
        Dylan16807 4y ago
        Sure, the model is too simple, but that doesn't change the ratio of gpu cost to bandwidth cost.

ClumsyPilot 4y ago

> Doesn't matter - the bandwidth used by an average user costs a small portion of a montly subscription fee. Citation needed. > High prices for GPUs may be a good way to get more subsribers, who will pay a lot more money over the years. And they set price of both markets. Sounds like market manipulation to me.

Dylan16807 4y ago
You can go into tons of datacenters and pay 10-20 cents per mbps in bulk. If we're using almost 40Mbps for each GPU then we're looking at $4-$8 of bandwidth. And this simplified scenario has 10 users per GPU on the 4k tier, I guess? That's $200 in subscription fees. And that's significantly understating the number of subscribers per GPU, if we're trying to pay off $16000.
- leereeves 4y ago
  Ten subscribers per GPU means an average player can play at most 17 hours per week, even if the service can somehow load balance across time zones without unacceptable lag. Having significantly more subscribers wouldn't give each player much time to play.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    Yeah that was the scenario laid out, that an average player with a $1600 GPU would use it 10% of the time. Whatever you think the real numbers are, you probably need about half a subscription to pay the bandwidth. I'd be more concerned about the electricity bill, since you'd be in the ballpark of 200kWh a month.
    - ClumsyPilot 4y ago
      > average player with a $1600 GPU would use it 10% of the time. Average driver uses car <5% of the time, but you can't replace 20 cars with 1 uber if everyone needs to get to work at 9 am
      - Dylan16807 4y ago
        Sure, the model is too simple, but that doesn't change the ratio of gpu cost to bandwidth cost.