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odd choosing Opel lineup in Europe, more popular VW Polo, Golf and Passat would make more sense, polo was introduced 1975, Golf 1974, Passat 1973 and they have

by petodo 4y ago

odd choosing Opel lineup in Europe, more popular VW Polo, Golf and Passat would make more sense, polo was introduced 1975, Golf 1974, Passat 1973 and they have even consistent model names for almost 50 years unlike Opel Polo 1 - 360 cm VS Polo 6 - 407 cm Golf 1 - 382 cm VS Golf 8 - 428 cm

tecleandor 4y ago
Until past year I had a Polo Mk3 and it's baffling the "growth speed" for those "supermini" cars... Now I have a 2011 Honda Fit/Jazz, and it has the same boot/trunk volume than the Golf 8... even when the Jazz is 30cm shorter than the Golf. Polo Mk1 - 360 - 1975 Polo Mk2 - 365 - 1981 Polo Mk3 - 371 - 1994 Polo Mk4 - 389 - 2001 Polo Mk5 - 395 - 2009 Polo Mk6 - 405 - 2007
- namdnay 4y ago
  don't get too hung up on the model names. If you're looking at specific segments, the current Up is the closest to the original Polo, be it in price or features or size
agloe_dreams 4y ago
Same story in the Jetta in the US. Jetta 1 - 427cm VS (USDM) current Jetta - 466cm There is only 19cm between the long-lived B6 Passat and the modern US Jetta and no Passat was bigger than the new Jetta until the B5. Cars are huge these days
namdnay 4y ago
Bear in mind that as each model grows (because each version has to be "better" than the last), new models are inserted at the bottom. In 1990 the Polo 2 was the smallest car VW made (375cm), the Polo 6 has the Up below it (355cm)
- wink 4y ago
  Yes, but also no. I'm not a huge car person but it seems they automakers are diversifying their lineup quite a bit. Look at BMW in the 90s, there was basically the 3,5,7 series (plus a few outliers, then the Z4) but now they have troubles putting all the models in one navigation bar :P One could argue that it's more built-to order now but you could already choose all the options, but I guess there was simply a different segmentation - i.e. let's say there were like 3-5 engines per series and 3 series, and now it's 5 series but maybe not with 5 engines each...
bryanlarsen 4y ago
A large part of this is VW taking advantage of the brand cachet that the Polo and Golf have accumulated to move the vehicle upscale. VW then comes up with new brands like the Up to cover the market they are leaving behind. Honda & Toyota do the same thing -- for instance the Honda Fit covers the niche the Civic used to cover. So the study should be done on brands that don't have cachet. For example, cars like the GM Vega, Sonic and Spark didn't really grow. They just got cancelled.

by petodo 4y ago

tecleandor 4y ago

Until past year I had a Polo Mk3 and it's baffling the "growth speed" for those "supermini" cars... Now I have a 2011 Honda Fit/Jazz, and it has the same boot/trunk volume than the Golf 8... even when the Jazz is 30cm shorter than the Golf. Polo Mk1 - 360 - 1975 Polo Mk2 - 365 - 1981 Polo Mk3 - 371 - 1994 Polo Mk4 - 389 - 2001 Polo Mk5 - 395 - 2009 Polo Mk6 - 405 - 2007

namdnay 4y ago
don't get too hung up on the model names. If you're looking at specific segments, the current Up is the closest to the original Polo, be it in price or features or size

agloe_dreams 4y ago

Same story in the Jetta in the US. Jetta 1 - 427cm VS (USDM) current Jetta - 466cm There is only 19cm between the long-lived B6 Passat and the modern US Jetta and no Passat was bigger than the new Jetta until the B5. Cars are huge these days

namdnay 4y ago

Bear in mind that as each model grows (because each version has to be "better" than the last), new models are inserted at the bottom. In 1990 the Polo 2 was the smallest car VW made (375cm), the Polo 6 has the Up below it (355cm)

wink 4y ago
Yes, but also no. I'm not a huge car person but it seems they automakers are diversifying their lineup quite a bit. Look at BMW in the 90s, there was basically the 3,5,7 series (plus a few outliers, then the Z4) but now they have troubles putting all the models in one navigation bar :P One could argue that it's more built-to order now but you could already choose all the options, but I guess there was simply a different segmentation - i.e. let's say there were like 3-5 engines per series and 3 series, and now it's 5 series but maybe not with 5 engines each...

bryanlarsen 4y ago

A large part of this is VW taking advantage of the brand cachet that the Polo and Golf have accumulated to move the vehicle upscale. VW then comes up with new brands like the Up to cover the market they are leaving behind. Honda & Toyota do the same thing -- for instance the Honda Fit covers the niche the Civic used to cover. So the study should be done on brands that don't have cachet. For example, cars like the GM Vega, Sonic and Spark didn't really grow. They just got cancelled.