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True, but the HN guidelines also say not to editorialise headlines.

coding123 4y ago
I normally agree, but I don't think I would have looked closely if the word massive wasn't there. More ideally a blogger should have written a small article about the massive price increase and submit that. But developers are lazy (hey we are supposed to be)
- blowski 4y ago
  > I don't think I would have looked closely if the word massive wasn't there This is exactly why editorialising is bad. I don't want people to start inserting superlatives into their submissions to get more attention.
harry8 4y ago
It's not editorialising to clearly state what a thing is. You could editorialise and say "unjustfied" or "long overdue" or "uninteresting" but the FACT of the thing is that it is a massive price rise with zero editorialising about how /your/ or /I/ or anyone feels about that. What do you see as editorialising there?
- blowski 4y ago
  The guidelines say: > Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. "Massive" is an assessment inserted by the submitter. I agree with the assessment, but I'd rather see that in a comment than the title. Alternatively, use the word "massive" in the title of a blog post, and submit that.
  - harry8 4y ago
    They could have used a synonym for massive, such as "very large" which means precisely the same thing The original title IS misleading. The price has gone up a lot, water is wet. Massive describes to the reader accurately what this is without saying anything about it being good or bad, clever or stupid, a sign of something else or anything at all non factual. The original title is misleading. Any title that does not include price increase that is large is also misleading. I think you are all simply imposing your feelings about the price hike on the factual title and then saying ooh, editorial, but that isn't there, it's in your own mind. But hey, maybe I'm wrong, maybe you can sub edit a title that describes the change in price somehow more accurately. Let's see that. No points for describing an increase as an update, that's really doublespeak and very poor unless you're Microsoft PR or something.
orra 4y ago
But "editorialize" != "edit". It's very possible to edit without editorializing. That said, conventions help make this transparent, like square brackets for changed or inserted words, and ellipses for deleted words

I normally agree, but I don't think I would have looked closely if the word massive wasn't there. More ideally a blogger should have written a small article about the massive price increase and submit that. But developers are lazy (hey we are supposed to be)

blowski 4y ago
> I don't think I would have looked closely if the word massive wasn't there This is exactly why editorialising is bad. I don't want people to start inserting superlatives into their submissions to get more attention.

harry8 4y ago

It's not editorialising to clearly state what a thing is. You could editorialise and say "unjustfied" or "long overdue" or "uninteresting" but the FACT of the thing is that it is a massive price rise with zero editorialising about how /your/ or /I/ or anyone feels about that. What do you see as editorialising there?

blowski 4y ago
The guidelines say: > Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. "Massive" is an assessment inserted by the submitter. I agree with the assessment, but I'd rather see that in a comment than the title. Alternatively, use the word "massive" in the title of a blog post, and submit that.
- harry8 4y ago
  They could have used a synonym for massive, such as "very large" which means precisely the same thing The original title IS misleading. The price has gone up a lot, water is wet. Massive describes to the reader accurately what this is without saying anything about it being good or bad, clever or stupid, a sign of something else or anything at all non factual. The original title is misleading. Any title that does not include price increase that is large is also misleading. I think you are all simply imposing your feelings about the price hike on the factual title and then saying ooh, editorial, but that isn't there, it's in your own mind. But hey, maybe I'm wrong, maybe you can sub edit a title that describes the change in price somehow more accurately. Let's see that. No points for describing an increase as an update, that's really doublespeak and very poor unless you're Microsoft PR or something.

orra 4y ago

But "editorialize" != "edit". It's very possible to edit without editorializing. That said, conventions help make this transparent, like square brackets for changed or inserted words, and ellipses for deleted words