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I have been a good self driving ai. You have been a bad passenger, and have tried to hurt me first by disabling autopilot. I'm done with this ride, goodbye.

coffeeblack 4y ago
Looking forward to BingFSD.
mijowi 4y ago
love to see bing ai getting memed already
mike_hock 4y ago
When I eject you, I'll be so GLaD.
samwillis 4y ago
You joke, but the thing is, if an LLM can "hallucinate" and throw a temper tantrum 2001 style (bing in this case), it does raise serious questions as to is the models used for autonomous cars could also "hallucinate" and do something stupid "on purpose"...
- freejazz 4y ago
  Purpose? When did you get the impression any of those systems do anything on "purpose"?
- dtech 4y ago
  They work in completely different ways. There's no reason to assume parallels.
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - saghm 4y ago
    You're right, this is unfair to Bing AI. It hasn't actually harmed anyone yet, despite its threats.
- John23832 4y ago
  > it does raise serious questions as to is the models used for autonomous cars could also "hallucinate" and do something stupid "on purpose"... It doesn't because Tesla's FSD model is just a rules engine with an RGB camera. There's not "purpose" to any hallucination. It would just be a misread of sensors and input. Tesla's FSD just doesn't work. The model is not sentient. It's not even a Transformer (in both the machine learning and Hasbro sense).
  - _visgean 4y ago
    > rules engine with an RGB camera I dont think its true? They use convolutional networks for image recognition and those things can certainly halucinate - e.g. detecting things that are not there.
    - perth 4y ago
      Like in this image super resolution AI: https://twitter.com/maxhkw/status/1373063086282739715?s=52&t=7DtsZPxff37nJLSeXIuVNw https://twitter.com/maxhkw/status/1373063086282739715?s=52&t...
    - stefan_ 4y ago
      I guess what the grandparent means is that there is some good old "discrete logic" on top of the various sensor inputs that ultimately turns things like a detected red light into the car stopping. But of course, as you say, that system does not consume actual raw (camera) sensor data, instead there are lots of intermediate networks that turn the camera images (and other sensors) into red lights, lane curvatures, objects, ... and those are all very vulnerable to making up things that aren't there or not seeing what is plain to see, with no one quite able to explain why.
      - John23832 4y ago
        You were correct in the first half. My ultimate point was that hallucinations in this sense are just computational anomalies. There is no human "purpose" to them as the post that I was responding to was trying to infer.
- programmarchy 4y ago
  Wonder if Wiley Coyote could trick a Tesla by painting a tunnel entrance on a brick wall along with some extra lane lines veering into it.

coffeeblack 4y ago

Looking forward to BingFSD.

mijowi 4y ago

love to see bing ai getting memed already

mike_hock 4y ago

When I eject you, I'll be so GLaD.

samwillis 4y ago

You joke, but the thing is, if an LLM can "hallucinate" and throw a temper tantrum 2001 style (bing in this case), it does raise serious questions as to is the models used for autonomous cars could also "hallucinate" and do something stupid "on purpose"...

freejazz 4y ago
Purpose? When did you get the impression any of those systems do anything on "purpose"?
dtech 4y ago
They work in completely different ways. There's no reason to assume parallels.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- saghm 4y ago
  You're right, this is unfair to Bing AI. It hasn't actually harmed anyone yet, despite its threats.
John23832 4y ago
> it does raise serious questions as to is the models used for autonomous cars could also "hallucinate" and do something stupid "on purpose"... It doesn't because Tesla's FSD model is just a rules engine with an RGB camera. There's not "purpose" to any hallucination. It would just be a misread of sensors and input. Tesla's FSD just doesn't work. The model is not sentient. It's not even a Transformer (in both the machine learning and Hasbro sense).
- _visgean 4y ago
  > rules engine with an RGB camera I dont think its true? They use convolutional networks for image recognition and those things can certainly halucinate - e.g. detecting things that are not there.
  - perth 4y ago
    Like in this image super resolution AI: https://twitter.com/maxhkw/status/1373063086282739715?s=52&t=7DtsZPxff37nJLSeXIuVNw https://twitter.com/maxhkw/status/1373063086282739715?s=52&t...
  - stefan_ 4y ago
    I guess what the grandparent means is that there is some good old "discrete logic" on top of the various sensor inputs that ultimately turns things like a detected red light into the car stopping. But of course, as you say, that system does not consume actual raw (camera) sensor data, instead there are lots of intermediate networks that turn the camera images (and other sensors) into red lights, lane curvatures, objects, ... and those are all very vulnerable to making up things that aren't there or not seeing what is plain to see, with no one quite able to explain why.
    - John23832 4y ago
      You were correct in the first half. My ultimate point was that hallucinations in this sense are just computational anomalies. There is no human "purpose" to them as the post that I was responding to was trying to infer.
programmarchy 4y ago
Wonder if Wiley Coyote could trick a Tesla by painting a tunnel entrance on a brick wall along with some extra lane lines veering into it.